Recommend me a starter bike

SwampAss said:
Because 600s handle and brake on a knife's edge. Very small steering inputs make very large changes in the line the bike follows. A new rider with little experience needs a wider margin for error. Bikes like the EX500 and GS500 have more relaxed steering geometry and suspension components. A small mistake on something like that will be absorbed much more so than on something designed to be ridden with exacting precision.

People often concern themselves with the overall power of the motorcycle. Forward acceleration (aside from flipping it in a wheelie) is the least of your worries. It's not being able to stop or turn that gets people hurt.

An EX500 still hits 60 in just over 4 seconds. Spend some time on something smaller and easier to control..then, after you've got the basics down and feel comfortable on two wheels, move to something more sporty.



Well said, 500cc could be good too, BUT TAKE IT SLOW, REAL SLOW...btw if anything is going to be said Just blame Swampass
 
SwampAss said:
Because 600s handle and brake on a knife's edge. Very small steering inputs make very large changes in the line the bike follows. A new rider with little experience needs a wider margin for error. Bikes like the EX500 and GS500 have more relaxed steering geometry and suspension components. A small mistake on something like that will be absorbed much more so than on something designed to be ridden with exacting precision.

People often concern themselves with the overall power of the motorcycle. Forward acceleration (aside from flipping it in a wheelie) is the least of your worries. It's not being able to stop or turn that gets people hurt.

An EX500 still hits 60 in just over 4 seconds. Spend some time on something smaller and easier to control..then, after you've got the basics down and feel comfortable on two wheels, move to something more sporty.
Great advice. My first non leg-powered ride was a motorcycle.
 
You don't need a 600.

If you look at my avatar you'll see me on a EX500, the bike in front is an R1. I passed his ass the next couple of turns. That's a 500cc diff., and about a 100hp diff. It's not like cars, the one with the most HP doesn't always win.

To go fast;
It's not the bike, it's the rider.

I still say get a motard, they're cheap, almost unbreakable, and about as much fun as you can have on two wheels. Great for a begginers.

Not to mention backing it in...

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In regard to the ninja 250, I bought one in 1997 to teach my wife how to ride. She's about 5 foot 7 and that was a bike she could parking lot handle easily. Her big concern was dropping it. 375lbs, might as well be 475lbs IMO. The seat was certainly low enough though. She rode it for about 2 years. I commuted on it for a year and then sold it.
So what's my problem with the Ninja 250? Given the fact it's 250ccs, you turn a pretty serious RPM @ 60mph. Riding a bike on the highway @ 7000-8000 RPMs for any period of time tires you out. Riding around town or lower speed backroads is fine. If you actually go anywhere, meh. The 500 is better in the regard that it's more relaxed on the slab if you want to go somewhere or explore new roads. It's also linear enough powerwise to keep you in check and compliant enough steering/suspension wise to have fun with that margin.

My first streetbike was an 88 Virago 250. I had 8 years of motorcross experience before that, competed semi competitively and raced in several hare scrambles from age 12-16. I had a blast going to street.
Right now I have a 01 YZF600R (my wife rides it sometimes) and an 06 Triumph Sprint ST.

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Even though I've been riding street for about 15 years and probably have almost 300,000 motorcycle street miles under my belt, I still make mistakes, I still give myself reality checks, and I still have as much fun as I did back in 88.
 
Some very good advice here. I second taking the MSF Beginner Biker's Course, and getting a full compliment of quality riding gear. As for bikes, you can also get something a little older than what has been recommended. One of my favorites is the Honda VF500F Interceptor. Awesome bike, great handling and plenty of power. You won't get bored with it once you have some experience. I have one that I raced for a while, even though it was made 1984-1986 it did pretty well (rider not withstanding).
 
besides the bike itself, what is the best thing to do as far as practicing goes? just ride as much as you can on highways and cities? or avoid city driving/traffic at first?
 
smo0f said:
besides the bike itself, what is the best thing to do as far as practicing goes? just ride as much as you can on highways and cities? or avoid city driving/traffic at first?


Get someone who can ride and go to an empty commuter lot or highschool lot. Try and find something with a hill and enough area to practice hard braking. Don't go by yourself. If something happens, and you get hurt, no one will know where you are. Besides, if you take someone with you who can ride, and has ridden for a while, they can give you pointers. Avoid heavy traffic if you can. You'll have enough on your mind as it is. If it's possible, ride around your neighborhood. Riding a motorcycle is 8 parts confidence and 2 parts skill. Once you get the hang of the clutch and it's friction point, you're almost completely there. Master that and you are golden. The rest comes with time. Learn to scan ahead. I know we do this when we drive but it's doubly important on a bike. Sand, gravel, and grass clippings in areas where you need to brake will send you ass over tea kettle if you don't plan for them. Never ride the center of the lane. Cars will straddle road kill or debris. You'll hit it if you ride in the middle. All of this is taught in the MSF course.
In the beginner's course, you can have no idea how to ride a bike. They teach you all of the basics.
 
alright good. now all i have to do is wait until my parents pass away so i can get a bike. cross your fingers!
 
when u drop model names for bikes, would u mind including the maker? I'm really new to this scene so EX500 means nothing to me haha
 
skilletrx said:
whats a motard?
Also,


i'm guessing supermoto. both my brothers in law have suzuki drz400sm's and say they'd make a good starter bike for me. i'm thinking of going this route.
 
skilletrx said:
when u drop model names for bikes, would u mind including the maker? I'm really new to this scene so EX500 means nothing to me haha
EX500 is a Kawasaki. IMO the EX500 sucks a$$ and is overpriced -- better to go with the lower model (250 Ninja) or better yet the higher model (650 Ninja). The 650 Ninja is the perfect starter bike -- nice and upright riding position.
 
girth said:
EX500 is a Kawasaki. IMO the EX500 sucks a$$ and is overpriced -- better to go with the lower model (250 Ninja) or better yet the higher model (650 Ninja). The 650 Ninja is the perfect starter bike -- nice and upright riding position.


The EX500 is the better bike. Buy it used. There's way too many out there used to even consider as new. You can find them in great shape with low mileage for $1500-$2200 all day long. The 250 is ok, but unless you are really short, the 500 is better by along shot.
(I've owned the 250 and ridden the 500 alot)
The 250 is tiresome on the highway.
 
First thing you should do is take the MSF (Motorcycle Safety Foundation) course. They supply you with a bike for the classes.
 
Buell blast is a good beginner bike. not a whole lot of power which is good for an amature rider.
 
meinp5 said:
Suzuki SV650S

this is what EVERYONE recomends as a starter.. And its a pretty nice price.. they have a forum where people are always selling them.. there's also one or two on craigslist each week
 

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