Racing Cosmic Blue Mazdaspeed 3 nailed by Hummer and kills both in Mazda.
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Sucks, this is why insurance is so high for drivers under 25. 
Coming from someone fighting with a 16 year old on the internet, my father and I have decided to ignore your advice on parenting. And if I had a 16 year old kid right now (obviously if I was older) and he wanted a MS3, and if was he was a responsible hard working kid, I would have no problem getting it for him. Sorry if your parents wouldn't let you get what you wanted when you were 16, or even if for some reason you feel your MAZDA is a nicer car than it is and are appalled that teenagers also have it. (headshake)Maybe you are jealous, but in any case to blame a parent for a kids action would be similar to blaming a kid for his parents divorce. You should buy a soul and feel bad for them. How would you feel if your kid died in a car accident and people blamed you for him running a red light. You have no right to insult my father or my family for that mater. Maybe where you live in bum f*** nowhere kids are stupid. But in my area we care about our cars enough to not let them get ****** up. Hell, I probably keep better care of my car then you.
And no I haven't, your right. The thing I was trying to say is that A DEATH IS A DEATH. If the kid hit a wall and died, he IS STILL DEAD.
Once again, I thank Jbiird for pointing out that we should keep the kids and his family in our prayers, not go and lynch his parents.
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I havn't read all of the posts on this, but I am seeing several comments about the fact that "it was such a fast car" playing a heavy factor into this accident. I just want to drop a little comment regarding that. Working in the insurance claims field, both office and field work, these types of accidents occur more often with 'average' cars than they do with "fast" cars. I'm sure the fact that it was in fact a fast car may have had an influence on the boys decision making, however, these kinds of accidents happen all of the time, and they happen in pick up trucks, suv's, old cars, new cars, motorcyles.
This specific accident is very unfortunate, if just one of so many factors were different, the kids may have survived. Had the other veh not been a hummer for instance. The hummer clearly sustained heavy sway frame damage but its' a full frame vehicle, not necessarily designed to take an impact. it does have crush zones, but not like one of another unibdy vehicle. Not saying they would've survived for sure, but definitely more of a chance.
I just don't feel the responsibility can't but put soley on the parents as they didn't make the decision to go left of center, Our MS3's are fast cars, but they're also safe. Had they been in an 89 Lebaron (like my first car when I was 16), they could've been killed in a deer crash. Clearly in this accident, 6 airbags didnt mean much but it's just a mixture of unfortunate circumstances which lead to devestating results, and it's a shame one poor decision lead to such an ending.
This specific accident is very unfortunate, if just one of so many factors were different, the kids may have survived. Had the other veh not been a hummer for instance. The hummer clearly sustained heavy sway frame damage but its' a full frame vehicle, not necessarily designed to take an impact. it does have crush zones, but not like one of another unibdy vehicle. Not saying they would've survived for sure, but definitely more of a chance.
I just don't feel the responsibility can't but put soley on the parents as they didn't make the decision to go left of center, Our MS3's are fast cars, but they're also safe. Had they been in an 89 Lebaron (like my first car when I was 16), they could've been killed in a deer crash. Clearly in this accident, 6 airbags didnt mean much but it's just a mixture of unfortunate circumstances which lead to devestating results, and it's a shame one poor decision lead to such an ending.
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I am not going to read all 200 some posts in this thread. What reading I have done through this thread, in some ways, depresses me. This was a tragic accident that didn't need to happen, but what I am going to say regarding it isn't me blaming anyone for the choices that lead to this accident.
This accident may not have had anything to do with the level of performance of the vehicle (I suspect it did), but this kid still had too much car for being such a young driver. There are reasons young drivers get in more accidents, and it usually has to do with experiences and decision making. The performance of this vehicle makes every single one of us want to dick around on the road more than we should, but the thing that comes with age and experience is knowing that there is a time and a place for that sort of thing.
Maybe this makes me sound old and crotchety at 26, but for every single young driver (20 and under) reading this thread: ask most people on here 25 and up "Would you have wanted an MS3 when you were 17?" The answer? Yes. Followed by "But it's probably best that I didn't have one until I was older." Every single young guy thinks "It can't happen to me. Plus, I'm a good driver, I know what I'm doing. I've taken courses. My reaction speed is fantastic, too! I'll be fine." Every single one. I remember being that dumb. Most people on here probably do, too. Maybe it's even true in your case (although that is extremely unlikely). The problem is that stuff usually doesn't even matter. Driving is a bunch of constantly changing variables, and you do not have control of all of them. That's the difference between a new driver and one who has been on the road for 10 years: knowing that as good as you might (MIGHT) be, you do not control everything going on on the road.
The driver of the MS3 in this accident obviously didn't have the skill sets he needed to survive on the road. He didn't have the maturity or the experience necessary to make good choices. I think the vehicle likely contributed to the bad decisions he made, and he took a risk. He obviously thought he'd be okay passing as he did (for whatever reason), and he was wrong. He paid the ultimate price because of a dumb choice that most of us will admit, if we're honest, was exactly like one we might have made in the head of the moment back when we were 17 and showing off for our friends.
A fast vehicle requires a level of responsibility and self control you don't need when you're in a 10 year old escort or Z22 Cavalier or whatever other relatively sedate first drive most of us had. Responsibility and self control that I don't think most young drivers have (and accident statistics support this).
I've said this before and I will say this again, to everyone on here: be safe, and be smart. For all we know that guy might have had a screen name on here and posted on here occasionally. The sooner you learn that you're not as skilled/safe/invincible behind the wheel as you think you are, the better.
This accident may not have had anything to do with the level of performance of the vehicle (I suspect it did), but this kid still had too much car for being such a young driver. There are reasons young drivers get in more accidents, and it usually has to do with experiences and decision making. The performance of this vehicle makes every single one of us want to dick around on the road more than we should, but the thing that comes with age and experience is knowing that there is a time and a place for that sort of thing.
Maybe this makes me sound old and crotchety at 26, but for every single young driver (20 and under) reading this thread: ask most people on here 25 and up "Would you have wanted an MS3 when you were 17?" The answer? Yes. Followed by "But it's probably best that I didn't have one until I was older." Every single young guy thinks "It can't happen to me. Plus, I'm a good driver, I know what I'm doing. I've taken courses. My reaction speed is fantastic, too! I'll be fine." Every single one. I remember being that dumb. Most people on here probably do, too. Maybe it's even true in your case (although that is extremely unlikely). The problem is that stuff usually doesn't even matter. Driving is a bunch of constantly changing variables, and you do not have control of all of them. That's the difference between a new driver and one who has been on the road for 10 years: knowing that as good as you might (MIGHT) be, you do not control everything going on on the road.
The driver of the MS3 in this accident obviously didn't have the skill sets he needed to survive on the road. He didn't have the maturity or the experience necessary to make good choices. I think the vehicle likely contributed to the bad decisions he made, and he took a risk. He obviously thought he'd be okay passing as he did (for whatever reason), and he was wrong. He paid the ultimate price because of a dumb choice that most of us will admit, if we're honest, was exactly like one we might have made in the head of the moment back when we were 17 and showing off for our friends.
A fast vehicle requires a level of responsibility and self control you don't need when you're in a 10 year old escort or Z22 Cavalier or whatever other relatively sedate first drive most of us had. Responsibility and self control that I don't think most young drivers have (and accident statistics support this).
I've said this before and I will say this again, to everyone on here: be safe, and be smart. For all we know that guy might have had a screen name on here and posted on here occasionally. The sooner you learn that you're not as skilled/safe/invincible behind the wheel as you think you are, the better.
geez.. this kid is annoying. First thing is first, your family owned porsche,vette etc and your bro drives Z...Kid.. your not in the majority. Your rich, probably upper middle or upper class. Of course you dont know that because your still kid. If your considered poor.. then i wonder what im considered as.
Wow.. saved 5k when you were 16 huh, that's impressive.
Your still kid, you still dont know s***, you will make mistake and learn. Let's just hope that mistake wont be as tragic as this one.
Wow.. saved 5k when you were 16 huh, that's impressive.
Your still kid, you still dont know s***, you will make mistake and learn. Let's just hope that mistake wont be as tragic as this one.
wow 16 pages in 2 days. sad story. as a child i was handed down an old beater truck im glad i grew up on it all 103 hoorsepower at the flywheel. but i have bought a paid for two cars now and you have soo much more appreaciation and a little more carefull when you have that monthlw payment. i wont lie i do enjoy some spirited driving every now and then but only when trafic and road conditions alow i guess thats also from being older.
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“…We both talked to him, and … I told him ‘My dad doesn’t like me riding with you because the way you drive, and he’s afraid you’re either going to kill someone one day or kill yourself in an accident, and today it happens,” said Jon Herbert’s friend Mike Long. “It’s just weird how things happen like that sometimes.”
you guys defending the parents are missing the point. the above quote is point in case. the kid talking to the reporter wouldn't be in a situation like this because he has responsible parents. they didn't allow him to step into the MS3 with this kid. they saw a potential danger to their kid and removed it. that's what responsible parents, they limit risks and dangers to their kids.
you guys defending the parents are missing the point. the above quote is point in case. the kid talking to the reporter wouldn't be in a situation like this because he has responsible parents. they didn't allow him to step into the MS3 with this kid. they saw a potential danger to their kid and removed it. that's what responsible parents, they limit risks and dangers to their kids.
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Soo damn true...
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Two questions...kid...
How do you hold a gpa of that sort with a 40+ hour job? Thats got to be alot of down time at your job for studying...
Two, what do you consider a "good paying job"?
Just curious...
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