Racing Beat vs H&R springs
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UnZipHer15
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Looks like you'll have to give racing beat a call to get the spring rates... And give Corksport a call to get the H&R rates.
Chances are racing beat springs are manufactured by H&R or a similar company. H&R is also a leading name in suspension so I'd go with them over racing beat and I know H&R offers a 2 year limited warranty... And Corksport backs their product... A lot of positives.
Are you looking for the biggest drop? Looking for the most comfort?
My advice in all of these spring threads.. Save up for coilovers
Chances are racing beat springs are manufactured by H&R or a similar company. H&R is also a leading name in suspension so I'd go with them over racing beat and I know H&R offers a 2 year limited warranty... And Corksport backs their product... A lot of positives.
Are you looking for the biggest drop? Looking for the most comfort?
My advice in all of these spring threads.. Save up for coilovers
shortfuse12
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i have a racing beat springs that i used for about a month and now it seating in my garage. ride was its the same as any springs like EIBACH and PROGRESS springs. ride height not too much satisfied with it unless ur planning to put a 16" or 17" wheels.
kcdirtbro54
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Or you could get Pro Kits, like me, with the million mile warranty. (breakn)
So they were too stiff with not enough of a drop? Did the shocks seem to work ok or did it seem bouncy as well?
Ive got the H&Rs and the new ride height and handling characteristics are superb....but...they dont seem so progressive at all..if I was on surface streets doing non highway driving it wouldnt be so bad, but...on the highway they are pretty firm (you could call them a little bouncy) and if I was an old man with a back problem I wouldnt be able to handle them ;-) On a side note I need to go on a diet because since the H&R's I notice my man boobs arent as firm as I want them to be lol.
colonelangus
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i just installed H&R springs and for what its worth my opinion is they are fine for average guy/gal if you need more or better you are probably into the racing scene ..the car handles better then stock for sure body roll is almost gone brake dive is reduced bigtime but not eliminated..overall i beleive it was the way to go for me.. coilovers are a supieror suspension but if you dont use it to its potential then its a waste of money
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shortfuse12
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it was bouncy in the begining but after awhile it settled in i didnt feel it as bouncy as before. i guess i got used to it
Font Motorsports
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The best info I've been able to find is that the RB springs are 20% stiffer than stock and the H&R's are 30% stiffer, according to the following links
http://www.racingbeat.com/Mazda-2/Spring-Sets/77080.html
http://www.corksport.com/getting-down-with-the-mazda-2.html
RB's lower 7/8in front and 5/8in rear
H&R's lower 1.5in front and 1.3in rear
Eibach's are another option, they are 1.2in F&R, no idea how they compare in terms of stiffness
http://www.racingbeat.com/Mazda-2/Spring-Sets/77080.html
http://www.corksport.com/getting-down-with-the-mazda-2.html
RB's lower 7/8in front and 5/8in rear
H&R's lower 1.5in front and 1.3in rear
Eibach's are another option, they are 1.2in F&R, no idea how they compare in terms of stiffness
shortfuse12
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if u are interested in springs i'll be selling my RB springs soon. beware that this springs wont drop the car that much.
colonelangus
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H&R makes 4 sets of springs with different lowering heights and spring rates which ones you referring to?
Max Archer
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How's the ride quality compared to stock? I'm planning on springs eventually, but want my car to stay totally daily driver status so the RBs sound pretty good.
As far as I know, they only make 1 spring set for the Mazda 2: The Sport springs.
According to a forum member:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...h-or-H-amp-R&p=5837919&viewfull=1#post5837919
So it would seem the Eibach's are the middle-of-the-road option. Not quite as low or stiff as the H&R, but does close the wheel gap a bit more than the Racing Beat.
Also of note according to another forum member:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...nvestigation&p=5741225&viewfull=1#post5741225
So it seems like you'd be living on the bumpstops if you don't cut them. Has anyone else looked into this - eg how much you can cut before the actual shock rod bottoms? How much are you guys cutting out of your bumpstops? I feel like most people don't cut them which makes me think Racing Beat's approach with the most modest drop is probably the wisest in terms of handling.
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...h-or-H-amp-R&p=5837919&viewfull=1#post5837919
So it would seem the Eibach's are the middle-of-the-road option. Not quite as low or stiff as the H&R, but does close the wheel gap a bit more than the Racing Beat.
Also of note according to another forum member:
So while looking at all of this I noted some things which would help out our suspension in the front. Firstly when the car was lowered 1" there was only 0.5" of shock travel left before hitting the bump stops.
So I really hope that the instructions for the lowering springs tell you to cut the bump stops.
I also looked at the travel when the strut is in full droop. Overall the wheel has 5.5" of travel from full droop to hitting the bump stop. At stock height it has about 1.5" of compression so there is a lot of droop travel there. A shortened shock/cutting the bump stop will help there a lot.
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...nvestigation&p=5741225&viewfull=1#post5741225
So it seems like you'd be living on the bumpstops if you don't cut them. Has anyone else looked into this - eg how much you can cut before the actual shock rod bottoms? How much are you guys cutting out of your bumpstops? I feel like most people don't cut them which makes me think Racing Beat's approach with the most modest drop is probably the wisest in terms of handling.
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I'm wondering the same thing in regards to the bump-stops. I love the look that the H&R's give, and I love the overall performance of the Racing Beat's, but I'm wondering for those of you who have been running H&R's for a while, how much time you guys are contacting the bump-stops? Anyone running H&R's that didn't trim their bump-stops? Basically I want to leave the bump-stops alone, and if comfortably running H&R's requires trimming or constantly tapping the bump-stops than I'll deal with the less optimal look and go with the Racing Beat's.
Also, any higher mileage 2's with H&R's seeing any early grenading of the stock shocks? I know that Racing Beat specifically states that their springs are designed to work well with stock or aftermarket shocks, and I know that lowering is hard on the OEM ones. Not having many current aftermarket options for good/durable shocks doesn't help.
Also, any higher mileage 2's with H&R's seeing any early grenading of the stock shocks? I know that Racing Beat specifically states that their springs are designed to work well with stock or aftermarket shocks, and I know that lowering is hard on the OEM ones. Not having many current aftermarket options for good/durable shocks doesn't help.
