Questions about natural gas conversion for DISI.

[Young Roids]

Anybody know the peformance ramifications of converting a car to CNG? Anybody know if there are conversion kits available for the disi engine?




And yes if you are wondering I have been watching the TBoone Pickens ads.

 

[J-Villa]

I thought you had to have reg. fuel injection or a carb. to accually convert a car to natural gas/propane. I have seen kits for trucks that sit on top of a carb. but i don't think it would be completely possible to use NG w/ the disi... But then again i'm not an engine tech.


And converting your car to propane/NG will not save the earth. Tboone pickens is on the right idea, but it will take ALOt longer then 10 years to kill our dependance on oil. First... series hybrids like the volt will have to replace a large amount of reg. gasoline burning cars. Then replace those gas burning engines in the hybrids w/ something more economical like a small diesel until power from the grids becomes cheap and clean enough to use only electricity for transportation uses.

Oh course solar panels, batteries, and wind mill tech. will have to make big leaps. Seeing how we can't feed the whole country w/ solar cells with a 25% efficency rating.

the key is harnessing the VAST amounts of energy the sun deposits on our planet. If we could harness a fraction of the suns power consistanly, we would solve our oil burning problems. We need cheap, clean energy... Not more efficent oil burners.

 

[Young Roids]

From what I gathered in a brief reaserch on the topic. Direct injection is actually the ideal method of fueling for CNG but I don't think there are any conversion kits for our disi. Converted engines are not ideal either CNG is optimal at a 14:1 compression rating.

 

[oaklandopen]

personally i think a good idea would be pushing less types of fuel to be used for combustion engines, and that would be diesel.

i figure if more manufactures lean towards diesel, than diesel fuel would be processed more than regular fuel, thus making it cheaper.

of course, no process involving this size of reform is going to be fast. everything is just a compramise to keep things going smoothly until the next step can be made. and that's all it is, steps, not leaps

 

[Super Unique]

Right now the refining process in the US market is heavily geared towards an established mix of gasoline, diesel, kerosene/jet fuel and distillates. Any meaningful deviations from that product mix will cause major retooling and investment that the refining establishment will not likely be willing to make voluntarily. Food for thought when discussing the current and proposed changes in fuels for automobiles and industry.

 

[Young Roids]

personally i think a good idea would be pushing less types of fuel to be used for combustion engines, and that would be diesel.

i figure if more manufactures lean towards diesel, than diesel fuel would be processed more than regular fuel, thus making it cheaper.

of course, no process involving this size of reform is going to be fast. everything is just a compramise to keep things going smoothly until the next step can be made. and that's all it is, steps, not leaps

The difference between natural gas and dieslel is that diesel still comes from the middle east while we have vast natural gas supplies in the US enough to last 150 years so we would be energy independant with cng.

 

[okpanic]

Wind and solar are great for the interior of the country but the coastal areas should be focusing on the ocean. The flow of the tides is as predicible as the sunrise and with all that water being pushed in and pulled out every 6 hours we can harness more energy than any other natural means.