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MP3skaterNC
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paulmp3 said:
DOOOOO ITTTTT!!!!!!
you shall be loved by millions of protege drivers, or maybe just like 3.
please do it.
MP3skaterNC said:
I will discuss it with him this in two weeks when i see him. he mentioned b4 if there was interest he could get a mold made of the prototype and have them made in cast aluminium. I only spoke briefly about it with him, he said there is a lot of testing b4 it would be ready
here is a pic of his intake mani for his dart. I would think the runners would be bigger though
im not sure if it would look like this or not? i have seen pics of custom mani's in mags but never actually saw on in person. 
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Little Beavis
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- 2001 MP3-T (#911)
What does he need to make it happen. . .can he do it without the car if he has just the intake manifold?
I will talk to him and find out. i think he might need the car. I will discuss everything in depth we i see him on the 4th.
Do you guys know any good specs? bevis wanna do some engineering to disign the best flowing intake??
I will get back to you guys, i really would like one myself.
he is gonna be making one for biknman's 1.6 soon, that car is bad ass.
Do you guys know any good specs? bevis wanna do some engineering to disign the best flowing intake??
I will get back to you guys, i really would like one myself.
he is gonna be making one for biknman's 1.6 soon, that car is bad ass.
got the carbon hood here sitehttp://www.carper4mance.com/listbycategory.cfm?categoryID=1
and the cam gears from
tripointengineering.com
hmm... the only thing we really need is an inexpensive way to bypass our stupid computer and control our A/F mix without dumping 1100 bucks on the haltech..
http://www.carper4mance.com/listbycategory.cfm?categoryID=1
and the cam gears from
tripointengineering.com
hmm... the only thing we really need is an inexpensive way to bypass our stupid computer and control our A/F mix without dumping 1100 bucks on the haltech..
http://www.carper4mance.com/listbycategory.cfm?categoryID=1
MP3skaterNC
JDM *****.
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- slotege mp3
huh?
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shinzen said:
People need to stop thinking that the MP3 ECU will add ten horsepower.
IT DOESN'T!
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shinzen said:
Nope...
The exhaust and intake manifold make a difference as well. And they don't lean anything out, the MP3 runs pig rich just like all the other Proteges. My tail pipe will attest to that.
The ECU does play a roll, but it is not the only piece of the puzzle that makes the 10 hp.
Look at the dyno's of my car on Flyin' Protege's web site. We ran my ECU and got stock figures. We put the Protege 5 ECU in my MP3 and got less two hp and up one torque...Where is all of the extra ten at? Not in the ECU...
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No problem...
I'm confused. I see alot of people griping about the transmission. What is the problem with the stock trans in your cars? I have run 2 of them in the rally car and every time we rebuild it, we are amazed that there is no synchro wear and the gears look good. After 2.5 years of rallying, I have a bit of pitting on the ring and pinion, but I am using the Emco r&p anyway. All this on boxes that get 200+ hp put through them, get downshifted often with no clutch, and get shock loads up the yingyang when landing from jumps, etc.
Also, somebody wanted racing axles. The stock axles are extremely strong. I haven't broken one except when I exploded a wheel on stage. The hard outer boots kinda suck, but not worth getting my undies in a twist. Again, if they take the shock loads of full power at full lock and full power on pavement landings on jumps at full droop, they should be more than adequate for your car until you are seeing 220+...and even then I think they will hang in there.
Intake manifolds and T-bodys can be flowed, bored, and reworked/new plate by a reputable cylinder head shop...open the yellow pages. My rally motors all use stock based parts.
The things you N/A guys need to make power are CAMS, COMPRESSION, and ENGINE MAPS (ECU). That will get you a big jump. Beyond that it is real work with changing valve sizes, etc. Again, a reputable cyl. head shop should be able to help you with it, but if the ECU wont give you the fuel or particularly, the timing, you will not get real far...about 170-180 with stock ECU on an N/A engine needing 100 oct. (in my opinion, of course).
Going up from there things get exponentially more expensive.
Turbo cars I would think are limited by the intercooler, the ecu, and then just controlling boost and seeing how hard you wanna push your stock rods and bearings. Again, the ECU would make things better.
Get a Walbro 255 in tank pump and it will drop right into the tank with an extra gasket and a spacer ring...should be good for 300hp.
Less bling, more zing.
Also, somebody wanted racing axles. The stock axles are extremely strong. I haven't broken one except when I exploded a wheel on stage. The hard outer boots kinda suck, but not worth getting my undies in a twist. Again, if they take the shock loads of full power at full lock and full power on pavement landings on jumps at full droop, they should be more than adequate for your car until you are seeing 220+...and even then I think they will hang in there.
Intake manifolds and T-bodys can be flowed, bored, and reworked/new plate by a reputable cylinder head shop...open the yellow pages. My rally motors all use stock based parts.
The things you N/A guys need to make power are CAMS, COMPRESSION, and ENGINE MAPS (ECU). That will get you a big jump. Beyond that it is real work with changing valve sizes, etc. Again, a reputable cyl. head shop should be able to help you with it, but if the ECU wont give you the fuel or particularly, the timing, you will not get real far...about 170-180 with stock ECU on an N/A engine needing 100 oct. (in my opinion, of course).
Going up from there things get exponentially more expensive.
Turbo cars I would think are limited by the intercooler, the ecu, and then just controlling boost and seeing how hard you wanna push your stock rods and bearings. Again, the ECU would make things better.
Get a Walbro 255 in tank pump and it will drop right into the tank with an extra gasket and a spacer ring...should be good for 300hp.
Less bling, more zing.
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Nice post Lurch...
Some one who knows the tranny's are strong! Just like I've been telling people.
Some one who knows the tranny's are strong! Just like I've been telling people.
Lurch, what are your opinion on a new intake manifold. Anythoughts on design or sizes for a FI application. Might be a broad question, but i figure you probally have more experience with this engine than anyone around here. What restrictions does the stock intake manifold have.
