production number mystery solved maybe?!?!?!?!

oh and if you treat ur car like that.

well one i dont smoke in my car i dont drive behind big rigs or low riders. so rock chips are rare with me. oh wait are you some hick that lives on old dirt and gravel roads. hrm, thats cool and all but i dont live in a area like that, i rarely incounter stuff to that nature. I have a 02 mitsubishi lancer oz rally that has kepts its value and is in mint condition. but if ya treat ur car like s*** of course ya gonna do nothing but decrease the value.
 
Ryan said:
oh and you do realize that ur car drops in value the second they hand you over the keys
ok sounds like a plan
Ryan said:
I have a 02 mitsubishi lancer oz rally that has kepts its value
now your confusing

woah there lil guy. your back peddling to save yourself, not looking to good. so which is it, does it loose value or stay the same?
 
im not back peddling to save myself

every car loses value off the lot, but, this car and rare cars, lose value due to milage but increase in value due to rarity. but thats all im gonna say on this matter argueing over some really stupid s*** now. and its really not worth my time to discuss this with you anymore, if you wanna argue with someone, find a diff thread, this thread was to see if ppls window stick matched there production number it was coincedence on mine, wasnt on anyone else and uve blown this thread into a whole other issue.
 
so all the japaneese "super cars" should be able to be resold for the same price as they were bought for because they don't import them anymor?
 
twiztedjeckel said:
also, check the for sale section and make sure those guys with MP3's are making every cent back that they spent on their brand new cars that are now up for sale. somethings telling me you'll find a different answer that you think. then again i'd pay top dollar window sticker pricing for a car that was a year or 2 old,some stone chips and possible cigarette burns and all the other little things that come along with a used car like the 30K miles that are on it. see if you can turn around and sell that for what you paid for it.QUOTE]


Old thread i found while doing some research on production number ... i'd like to add something to what twiztedjeckel is saying about the car's resale value

I brought back my P5 (not even an MP3 or MSP) in february after using it for 15 months, and got ~20500$ CDN for it (i payed 24000$ taxes in). Car was still in perfect condition ... that's what you have to do to get a good price. I don't know what you do with your car ... but cigarette burns ? come on ... gotta be careful.

All i'm saying is that it's possible, and my car wasn't even a limitted production car. So i'm sure that in a year or 2, if your MP3 or MSP still has a perfect interior and nothing major on the outside (stone chips are inevitable), you can get a great price. Maybe not exactly the same thing you paid, but i'm sure you can do it if you know how. I sat with the sales guy for 3 hours talking about the new car and trading in my p5, all that until i got the price i wanted.

So keep your hopes up ... it's possible
 
twisted thinks he's all old and wise. Dude the guy thinks its cool to know his number, and it would mean more to him for a lower number. I love how you try to make youself seem all knowledgable on a message board by trying to bring someone else down. Everyone has an opinion, and if you knock someone elses cause they don't share yours, then you're a f&#ing idiot.
 
Everyone knows the middle numbers are the best! The early numbers were made when the factory workers still didn't know how to put those new fangeled parts on yet, and the for the late numbers they were rushing to get the last ones out the door! Defintely the middle numbers are most valuable :)
 
twiztedjeckel said:
so all the japaneese "super cars" should be able to be resold for the same price as they were bought for because they don't import them anymor?
One example, but not a "super car" except in my opinion, comes to mind. Go price shopping for a 1995 RX-7. You won't have to pay the original $35K, but I would be surprised if you find many in good shape for under $20,000. You have to pry their owner's cold dead hands off of the steering wheels.
 
i love my #142 and will not sell it unless someone offers me double of what i paid. it is probably useless but very cool to know the pro number..... MSP is not likely a collectors car not it will become one, but the rarity factor makes it that much sexier....to me anyway
$0.02
 
I'm not taking sides, but I think the point made about the production number increasing your car's value is dead wrong. Do you guys keep your car under a cover in a heated, humidity controlled garage? We bought these cars to drive. They're just a car, not a collector's item. I disagree with the tone set here, so please don't take my comments in a negative way. Ryan, it looks to me like you have aftermarket parts on your car. Doesn't this decrease it's value? How many miles have you logged on it since you bought it? Do you park it in a garage? Just curious, not trying to get a rise out of anyone.

I think if you want to know your production number, go ahead and call mazda. Just keep in mind that it won't mean s*** to anyone but you. Everyone thinks their car is better then the nexy guy's (including me :D).
 
Ryan said:
I'm young so therefore that makes me nieve? what a laff. Yes, i collected cards, and i was the one smart enuf to get rid of the card when its value reached its peak, and some are still growing in value. Yes, i agree that some, lose value over time, You can either sell at the first sign of loss which would be the smart thing to do, or you can wait and hope something comes out related, and maybe a boost in price will come along with it. Example, new baseball player, rookie card isnt worth s*** unless he's very good, or until he retires. No im not gonna go out and buy a plate to stick on my car and show production number. But, all im saying its its nice to know, and if ya car happens to be a lower production number, in years to come, it'll be more valuable to some ppl than it will be to others, and just becuz you lost out 7 bucks on a baseballs/comic card or whatever it was, doesn't mean that everything drops in value, oh and you do realize that ur car drops in value the second they hand you over the keys? but with our cars being only 1750 in production compared to thousand and thousands made for other types of cars. Value will decrease when you drive off yes, but increase over time, not by drastic ammounts, but if you went to sell in lets say 3 years, you'd definately be able to get every cent you paid for it. Oh, and its not set in stone, that the 2003.5 are DEFINATELY comming out, just like its not set in stone that they are gonna make a mazdaspeed series for every mazda out. like protege 5 mazda 6 miata. Yes, you may see one or two, but there prototypes. I only foresee mazda making the 03.5 is the 03 were a HUGE enuf sucess that they feel they could mass produce with 4 new colors. to be honost has anyone looked at the car, its ugly. the grounds effects and the wings on the back are so ugly, makes the car look like its a saftey flotation devise rather than ground effects. the whole agressive look is poofed in the 03.5, but hey its all opinion, you buy a car for yourself, not becuz of what other ppl are gonna say and think about it, cuz when it comes down to it. its your car, you baught it for your enjoyment. Oh, and its not a big deal to some ppl i agree'd with you on that factor, I just think its kinda cool, and if ya are a collector its another thing you can ad to your list of mods, my car was 1518 off the production line, thats not saying alot i prolly wouldn't bother, but if i was in top 50 running through a car show or something if i had a board listening my mod's id definately put something like
03 mazdaspeed protege
spicy orange mica
Production Number 10
some ppl think stuff like that is cool. You don't, its not a big deal, collectors, go for rareness in whatever it is, id rather be able to say i was production number 15 of 1750, than to say im 1518 of 1750. a lower number is gonna be alot harder to find then one in the thousands. Just, like the Eclipse in the Orange color. Thats an extremely rare car, and to find the gsx version of that its even more rare, if i found one, id definately try to fork out the cash for it. its like going into a old ladies garage and finding a classic thats just been sitting there for the past 30 - 40 - even 50 years.
There is really nothing more to say here, you dont agree w/ me i dont agree w/ you. No, point in trying to prove eachother wrong, it'll just keep a cycle going. Anyways, take care.
this guy said the 3.5's look like a floatation device......hahahahahaa

wait.....i drive an 03.5

(bj)
 
So back on subject anyone verify the window sticker to production number thing?
 
DSM2MSP said:
So back on subject anyone verify the window sticker to production number thing?
no they have nothing in common or anything that would be useful to get your production # off of it.

call mazda na
 
I'm sorry, this low production number thing just doesn't make sense to me. Say in the first week of the production run, a faulty weld is discovered. Well, they then correct the robot to make the weld better. Wouldn't the higher number be more valuable since the problem was corrected? I mean it could a body panel fitment, or a hood alignment fix...nothing that would warrant a recall or TSB. So for me, I would want the higher production number.
 
mspdfreak said:
I'm sorry, this low production number thing just doesn't make sense to me. Say in the first week of the production run, a faulty weld is discovered. Well, they then correct the robot to make the weld better. Wouldn't the higher number be more valuable since the problem was corrected? I mean it could a body panel fitment, or a hood alignment fix...nothing that would warrant a recall or TSB. So for me, I would want the higher production number.

Theoretically the 1st and the last of any car are the most valuable-
but proving them is often the hardest part-

hence the numbered production sequence-
I think im close to dead middle - 1474 or 2750 - close enough!
 
Usually, if they truly were the first/last ones off the line, they are given a certificate and plaque (depending on the company). But if the numbers were truly given at the ports, then you have no idea which ones were produced first and what not.
 

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