Problem with front passenger air bag detector
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"You obviously are less concerned with safety than some parents.
Note: Glad to hear the 110 pounder was not a fast-food devouring obese 10 year old, because first post made no mention of age"
What does your underweight condition at 19 years old (a 19 year old is an adult by the way, not a child) have to do with my comment above, (besides nothing, certainly you were not an obese 10 year old child, lol)?
Regardless the safest place in vehicle for a child is back seat, not front seat.
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You can't do that, because then if you had someone lighter in it it would cause problems by saying they were an adult when it's really a child.
robertmazda
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Sure is a lot of emotion on this thread!
BillB - I'm totally sympathetic to your problem. I also have a 17 year old, and those who keep saying that he belongs in the back seat as a child really make no sense. As BillB said - his son can drive, as can my 17 year old. Had his licence since he was 16. So he's supposed to be in the back seat as a passenger but the front seat is OK as a driver? Really? Or should the min driving age be raised to whatever some here consider to be an "adult"? 18? 21? I could argue that if a 17 year old is safer in the back seat, then so are adults. But I doubt that many on this forum sit in the back when there's an empty front passenger seat. I guess I I just don't understand all of the hostility on this thread. It's unfortunate in my opinion.
BillB - I'm totally sympathetic to your problem. I also have a 17 year old, and those who keep saying that he belongs in the back seat as a child really make no sense. As BillB said - his son can drive, as can my 17 year old. Had his licence since he was 16. So he's supposed to be in the back seat as a passenger but the front seat is OK as a driver? Really? Or should the min driving age be raised to whatever some here consider to be an "adult"? 18? 21? I could argue that if a 17 year old is safer in the back seat, then so are adults. But I doubt that many on this forum sit in the back when there's an empty front passenger seat. I guess I I just don't understand all of the hostility on this thread. It's unfortunate in my opinion.
OP was the one that was hostile to everyone in the first place.
robertmazda
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OK, I can see how that may have come into play here.
Certainly is weird.
The driver side airbag comes out of the steering wheel, if properly adjusted should be aimed so it won't deploy and hit them in the face. Where as the passenger side airbag comes out of the dash, and is not adjustable. So the passenger side airbag is designed to hit people of a certain height. Which is why I said in my earlier post, designing the airbag to hit someone who falls into a range of height to be controlled by a sensor that is based on a person's weight is pretty much a shot in the dark. You can have someone who is 4'0 and weights 200lbs set off the airbag, but a 5'6 100lb person won't always do it.
I'm not sure how a wheel airbag can do that, considering the wheel is both height and rake adjustable?
I'm still only 5' 5", and 140 pound, my wife is the same height, but only 133 pounds, we get weighed weekly, so I'm not guessing.
The car would have to be modified if the wife doesn't weigh enough, because there's no way she travelling in the back.
My daughter is only 5'1", and has no trouble with only car, she is slim, not sure what she weights.
Is the weight thing a US set up, or does it apply to the UK etc.?
I'm still only 5' 5", and 140 pound, my wife is the same height, but only 133 pounds, we get weighed weekly, so I'm not guessing.
The car would have to be modified if the wife doesn't weigh enough, because there's no way she travelling in the back.
My daughter is only 5'1", and has no trouble with only car, she is slim, not sure what she weights.
Is the weight thing a US set up, or does it apply to the UK etc.?
TreyP
2018 Soul Red AWD Touring CX-5
Probably that is why Isobar stated "...if properly adjusted" and "should be aimed so it won't deploy and hit them in the face".
It sounds like your family may be an exception where no amount of adjustment will guarantee that the driver side air bag would not hit you in the face.
This is another example how advances in technology are taking control out of the owner's hands and then having to deal with the shortcomings. I remember when there was a manual switch to deactivate the airbag. I guess when the lawyers got involved when the airbag wasn't deactivated and someone got hurt, led to the seat occupied sensor. Well, what's going to happen now that the sensor is not working for the appropriate passenger seat occupant?
I can't fully speak for the UK models. I know the ECE regulations are fairly consistent with the FMVSS standards, but they do have some discrepancies. I can say that the weight calibrations would be different for each region. For example I know for our US seats, we use heavier dummies when compared to our Asian markets due to the average person having a pretty large difference in weights. So I would expect the UK model probably has a lower weight threshold when compared to the US, probably by a few kgs or so.
