Well I test drove a copper red 2008 MZ5T the other day. Loved it. I like the feel of the 5 speed and it drives like a car. I really like the new tails over the old ones, but i'd prolly get some Euro all-red ones anyway. The rims are cool, but im not sure if I like the old ones better or not. Now my biggest problem is that the red and white MZ5s don't have a black interior option, which is retarded. White 5s are teh butt secks and red ones are cool too, but I guess I would have to get a black one or go to the parts dept and buy the black interior seperate and swap it all out. I also wish the HIDs could come in a sport or touring because a GT model with AT is not an option with me. Overall the 5 is awesome and a great deal at around $20k with a decently loaded touring 5 speed.