Piasini Tune...where do I get this?

[AutoEuphoria]

From reading past threads it seems like there is one member of this forum somewhere in NY that does this flash...is this the only place you can have this done, or what? I want to do this because I've heard a lot of great things about it, and I'm not looking to go all out (no need for StandBack) and I PERSONALLY didn't have good results with the AP, mainly because I wasn't running the exact parts the tune called for.

So, where do I get the Piasini Flash?

 

[bykeryder4life]

the guy goes under the name NYPest or something like that so find a post by him and send him a pm. Then you will send your ecu out to him to be flashed and sent back.

 

[scatt nasty]

I wouldn't get this done personally, you don't have much support. I think the company is based out of Italy ? or somewhere in Europe.

 

[Circle9]

But the gains are said to be good....

 

[08cosmic3]

I've been leaning toward this flash also.

 

[Cue]

I wouldn't get this done personally, you don't have much support. I think the company is based out of Italy ? or somewhere in Europe.

On the other forum, there were 2 guys that had this done, plus a Piasini associate that couldn't provide much support on thier product. All they would do is come on the site, hype the s*** up, but when it came time to log specific parameters, they kept throwing excuses at us and wouldn't show. The logs they did show didn't tell us much...

I'm sure they're still having problems with knock too, cause they refused, and gave every little excuse not to to show the knock logs. And when they finally did, the log was from 1st to 2nd only. When we asked for full throttle log of 2nd to 4th, more excuses came out. And now these guys all of a sudden disapeared from the site and won't respond. The log they did have showed there AFRs running in the low 9's.

I wouldn't do it.... not until they can show the people what they want to see.

 

[scatt nasty]

On the other forum, there were 2 guys that had this done, plus a Piasini associate that couldn't provide much support on thier product. All they would do is come on the site, hype the s*** up, but when it came time to log specific parameters, they kept throwing excuses at us and wouldn't show. The logs they did show didn't tell us much...

I'm sure they're still having problems with knock too, cause they refused, and gave every little excuse not to to show the knock logs. And when they finally did, the log was from 1st to 2nd only. When we asked for full throttle log of 2nd to 4th, more excuses came out. And now these guys all of a sudden disapeared from the site and won't respond. The log they did have showed there AFRs running in the low 9's.

I wouldn't do it.... not until they can show the people what they want to see.

True that. The entire situation is shady. Lol, the fact that you have to mail off your ecu to whothefuckknows was enough for me to say HA nothx.

 

[derspi]

Aside from the MAJOR inconvenience of sending them your ECU, they do not seem to have much, if any, means of support. This type of outfit seems very similar to another company I dealt with on one of my previous cars. The distributor was in Alberta but all the work and R&D gets done in Holland. Same deal - send them your ECU, they flash it and they send it back. Any problems or need to go back to stock? Do it all over again. Luckily, I had no problems back then but it's quite apparent that you're at their complete mercy if anything goes wrong.

I know some ppl have been disappointed with the AP but I really see it as a no brainer. It's having the best of both worlds and with the ProTuner, owners can tune to their heart's delight (and possibly to their motor's demise).

 

[bykeryder4life]

I do not have the flash so I cannot speak from experience, but, each and every person who has had the flash done on their car was very pleased with it and their car runs very well to date. Nobody has blown on their tune...as opposed to other tunes available. As you mod more they can upgrade the flash and keep your car running properly. Yes, they do not have much support and they are located in italy so that really sucks and is a bad business move on their part. I believe there's alot of australian guys who have the flash and a guy over there can do them and give support as well....

 

[240ka]

the tune adjust to mods just like the stock tune does

 

[bykeryder4life]

only to a certain point though, but yes you are fully correct.

 

[derspi]

It's not the tune adjusting to the mods, it's the ECU - I don't think this is something unique to their flash but someone correct me if I'm wrong. And like bykeryder4life mentioned, the ECU can only adjust up to a certain point. I'm sure they can adjust the tune as you modify more but how is that ANY different from what Cobb & CPE already offer? So if I were to add an intake in March and then decide to go with an FMIC a couple of months after that, that means I'd have to ship my ECU out to them twice and be w/o a car for several days up to a week at a time? Why in the hell would I want to put up with that? It's not like they're gods and can pull another 100 WHP over a comparable map from Cobb or CPE.

Maybe it's a great flash but certainly not enough ppl in North America have tried it for us to know. It's really a numbers game - I'm sure there are many more ppl in the US that have a Cobb or CPE tune than the Piasani tune so it's pretty obvious there will also be more complaints and/or problems as each and every car reacts differently.

 

[bykeryder4life]

very true very true. touche'

 

[240ka]

If I read correctly when reading about this flash, I thought I read it adjust to all bolt ons so there would be nno need to ship the ecu out again after geting certain bolts like you would have to change maps with the ap

 

[SuperStretch18]

If I read correctly when reading about this flash, I thought I read it adjust to all bolt ons so there would be nno need to ship the ecu out again after geting certain bolts like you would have to change maps with the ap

I just don't see how that is possible. And again, where is the proof to back this up? I know that there are some users that have fully bolted on after the flash and they all have good things to report. But from what I can tell, they are all local to NY. I find it hard to believe that the tune will behave the same in a Florida summer or in an Alaska winter or at altitude in Colorado.

Maybe it does, but I just don't see how. The fact that the reps don't seem to want to explain it any better doesn't help the matter. If I was still local to Long Island and could physically go "shake the tree" I might view this as more of a viable option. I'm not though, so it's not even on my radar. I also think that any Aussie users should keep this as a viable option, because the OZ rep knows his s*** and is actually quite helpful. Just my .02 cents...

 

[AutoEuphoria]

OK, nevermind then Thank you for the heads up, everyone.

 

[MSMS3]

When some respected member of this forum posts dyno runs and complete data logs, like everybody is doing with the other tunes, then I might give it some credence.

One of those guys hawking the tune claimed that the tune alone would make our KO-4 turbos produce inceasing power all the way to redline when dyno after dyno, regardless of mods, shows the stock turbo running out of steam at 5,500 rpm and then producing more heat than power as rpm increases beyond that point. Given the size of our turbo housing and compressor outlet and the maximum volume of air it can move, that is a physical impossibility.

Their present credibility with me is -- zero.

 

[wisniaPl]

logs and stuff are on other forum i have my tune and I couldnt be happeir nypest is making 285whp and 315 torq with sri, tmic, and flash show my other car that is making that much power with only 2 mods guys that are fully bolted with ap are mkaing less ,and yes he is not using dyno jet.....and yes it helps to keep open throttle plate till redline

 

[Bravnik]

Wow - If you actually think a single flash fits all then you guys need to buy that electric supercharger on Ebay. Seriously.

The Piasini has shown to give a decent result to a minor bolt-on car. As you add mods the flash is NOT going to learn them and adjust. Your boost will drop and so will your power. That would imply its a living and learning flash which CAN'T be the case as a flash simply changes variables on the ECU and does not implant a computer or living organism that is alive.

Besides, NyPest does not even come to the forums anymore, answer e-mail or PM's. Why would you want to trust your ECU to someone like that. Not to mention $550 for it and I heard he quoted someone $800 at some point.

You can simply get an MBC for $30 and a Map Clamp and get the same result. Only when you start losing boost as you add mods you can turn up the nob to get it back.

Seriously guys. That Electric Supercharger is just what you need 0.o

Oh and WisniaPL - Dyno's can show a LOT of different things and numbers. He could simply be on a very friendly Dyno. There is NOBODY else reporting numbers close to his. What are YOU putting down with your Flash? I personally call total BS on his numbers.

 

[wisniaPl]

Wow - If you actually think a single flash fits all then you guys need to buy that electric supercharger on Ebay. Seriously.

The Piasini has shown to give a decent result to a minor bolt-on car. As you add mods the flash is NOT going to learn them and adjust. Your boost will drop and so will your power. That would imply its a living and learning flash which CAN'T be the case as a flash simply changes variables on the ECU and does not implant a computer or living organism that is alive.

Besides, NyPest does not even come to the forums anymore, answer e-mail or PM's. Why would you want to trust your ECU to someone like that. Not to mention $550 for it and I heard he quoted someone $800 at some point.

You can simply get an MBC for $30 and a Map Clamp and get the same result. Only when you start losing boost as you add mods you can turn up the nob to get it back.
btw darksun is using the same dyno so its not favorable
Seriously guys. That Electric Supercharger is just what you need 0.o

Oh and WisniaPL - Dyno's can show a LOT of different things and numbers. He could simply be on a very friendly Dyno. There is NOBODY else reporting numbers close to his. What are YOU putting down with your Flash? I personally call total BS on his numbers.

I was going to a dyno day last saturday but instead i went to my fiances sister wedding you can feel diff after flash when driving......I will do dyno as soon as i install dp and show comparsion same dyno that i went before....I was going to do dyno with the same mods and flash but i instaled fmic and i dont want to take it off and instal again..... best way to reach him is to call him....they thing is that piasini flash is not advertized at all...lokk for first threads when they didnt have gus n us and you ahd to sen ecu to itly they showed dyno graphs they gained around 30hp over stock...to each his own