Piasini Engineering Info..

You see only outer side, and I from within, inside. :)
MPS and MS - front and the profile of the sphere. :)

I can say for the validity, new tuning of the maps of Mazda from Piasini are better than the old.
Are more correct.
 
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Hey all,

I was number 5 worldwide to recieve the flash (as far as I know). I have run the flash for nearly a year with no problems ( the flash has been updated along the way ). I really dont know the power gains as I have not sought a dyno out.
As mentioned the support network is small and our local guy "Sassimac" has closed shop. The treatment of those distributing the flash was/has been pretty bad and "Sassimac" was over all the negative hype.

Cheers
 
...As mentioned the support network is small and our local guy "Sassimac" has closed shop. The treatment of those distributing the flash was/has been pretty bad and "Sassimac" was over all the negative hype.

Cheers

Yah, I heard Sassi closed up shop. Sorry to hear, as he's a stand-up guy. That said, there was a reason why the flash wasn't so well received and it has to do with marketing. If the flash was really everything that it was hyped to be, then there would be no reason why it wouldn't have done well...

Except if the proper information wasn't put out there. Messing with the internals of the ecu is (and should be) a dicey proposition unless there is enough material to support that the method both 1) adds performance and 2) is safe. Piasini unfortunately never quantified either of these in what the market deems an appropriate fashion. My take on this was that the directive came from Piasini, as it seemed none of the distributors seemed able to discuss any more details. The only real feedback that came out was from users that would typically say "yeah, it rips", but couldn't even talk in detail about what was going on behind the scenes.

There are too many "fuel savers" and "turbonators" in the automotive market for consumers to just believe everything that is spoon fed to them; there needs to be some quantifiable data to back-up the things you claim. It's unfortunate, but should serve as a lesson to anyone. No matter how good a product is, it can still flop if your marketing sux.
 
There is a lot of truth in that.
I beleive that Piasinis arrogance was the real problem here. They had a great opportunity and blew it.
 
260whp/330wtq is nice but everone that i know that ran your software has either blown or jump ship to the ap or standback for one reason or another.
 
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260whp/330wtq is nice but everone that i know that ran your software has either blown or jump ship to the ap or standback for one reason or another.

Same things that I have heard. Ill stick with a good quality tune via AP and AKUMA! (headbang)
 
Same things that I have heard. Ill stick with a good quality tune via AP and AKUMA! (headbang)

U get tuned by john too?

I will be heading to a dynojet this weekend hoping to be in the 300whp/340wtq region.

and what the hell happened to piasinis post???
 
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Your AP doesn't work on MPS so it's a sh***

I've already done more than 40000km with the Piasini tune without issue. And I'm sure gain is more than a AP or SB...
 
Your AP doesn't work on MPS so it's a sh***

I've already done more than 40000km with the Piasini tune without issue. And I'm sure gain is more than a AP or SB...

hey zaka if you can do this on a stock engine with the piasini lets see it....how much are you putting down?

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local speed3 (18psiwhitems3) - 380whp 355wtq on the AP
 
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Tell me why he cannot???

How much hp do you get with AP on a stock MS3?? only 20whp?? or maybe less...

Everyone with this reflash get more than 40hp /100Nm on a stock MPS, I can show you the dyno datasheet if you want.
 
i gained 60whp

Lol you mean with your Mods (Cobb SRI,...). I told you on a STOCK MS3, only AP!

Ok then... I think if you are happy with your AP, keep it and don't tell bullsh**t about Piasini tune.

Here a dyno on a stock MPS (before/ After reflash):

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Bye...
 
60 whp on a tune . . . lol


If your breaking 300 whp with nothing but a tune / intake you are asking for trouble.
 
Why is that? I'm only pushing 18psi?

and zaka I had a buddy with the piasini tune....hes out 6 grand on a new engine now, so its not really bulls***
 
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8.5MS3- This is turning into the argument like was had over AMR Tuning. People know its crap but youll always have that one or those few that swear its the best thing since sliced bread. The smart ones of us actually do some research and get things properly done with our cars. Hey, if they go ZOOM ZOOM BOOM its not our faults.

And to answer your question from before: No john hasnt tuned me yet. A few of my friends have been though, one actually just bought his motor from his STi. He swapped it with a Cosworth i believe. Stupid fast now. Im waiting for a few more things before I go, mainly DP,FMIC, and im tossing around manifold. Hopefully by this time next year my car will be where i want it to be.
 
I`m more than a little cautious about the idea of a generic "fits all" reflash. If I`m going to tweak my ecu, I want it done specifically for my particular setup, location, and driving style. This is why I am (still) saving my pennies for an AP.
 
Strange, we have remaped at quite a few MS3's with Piasani files, and we haven't had a single one go ZOOM ZOOM BOOM, Maybe we're doing something wrong? LOL

Look, the AP is a great unit, no doubt, we tune them here all the time. But it is not the only tuning interface out there, nor is it, in my opinion, the best.

Can you make 400WHP on the Piasini, yes. Can you do it with AP, yes. Its just a different way to do the same thing.

If anyone wants to try it, send me a box, I'll remap you for free just so everyone can check out the data and the dyno sheets......dyno

I think its more of the lack of support here in the US, just like the AP and SB on your side of the pond. also euro spec ms3s have different emissions requirements. having 2 cats and different mapping may be the reason the piasini doesnt work too well over here. just my .02. I know a local guy, who had the piasini tune ended up clogging his cats and decided to go tbe as a result. he blew shortly after, can it be coincidental, sure.
 
Heres a dyno sheet from a stock us model MS3 2007 that has had the reflash and nothing else
 

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