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RyanJayG said:
the split bumper was the 70-73 RS camaros, the z28 had a single piece like the base model and the SS

Really? I thought the RS with solid and the Z was split? Learn something new every day :). It has been 6 years since I owned a 71 camaro, so I really don't remember much about them.
Joe
 
yup the RS had the extened nose piece and fog lights too
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Joe would it be possible to hand production of these things to someone else?
Seems it may give you the break you need.
 
1st MP3 in NH said:
Joe would it be possible to hand production of these things to someone else?
Seems it may give you the break you need.

I have thought about it, but I really don't make enough $$$ off the products to be able to farm it out and I am not going to just give it away to someone to build themselves :).
Joe
 
Joe...I'm totally with you on all of this stuff. I got stuck on a bunch of my antenna orders and I just couldn't find the time to work on them. I was 3 monthes behind schedule and am just now getting caught up. Luckily I've been blessed to deal with 99.99% Pro5 owners who have always been supportive and understanding. I hope you stick around , but if you decide to leave you have my understanding.
 
Flat Black said:
I'm not out to down anyone, or say anything negative about anyone, its just part of business that you get whinny ill complacent people.

I agree- however, when you deal with people from over a dozen various automitive "groups" and only ONE group is the one that consistently gives you problems- when ALL of them recieve the same serice, it gets to be twice as annoying :).
Joe

edit- I forgot to mention- if you get enough paypal complaint, paypal will limit your transactions or close your account. I do too much business online to have a "select" few ruin it for me.
 
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Flat Black said:
I may be a new guy to the forum but I'm not a 'n00b'. You said it yourself its not worth it to you, you're weening yourself off the MSP products. You complain about people complaining to you. Sounds real productive.

IF you're going to take my say for the whole say of the MSP community, it shows just how intelligent you are. SO in other words, quit bitching and stop making.

I'm sorry, but 80% of you MSP people, or should I say spoiled children, are FUCKTARDS:mad:

Here Joe is, bending over backwards for MazdaSpeed owners, so you guys can have performance parts. But get this; before Joe came on the scene EVERY MSP owner was bitching about how their is no company making parts for Mazda.
Joe took the intiative to start making performance products and punk ass people like you are ruining it for every other MSP owner and future MSP owner out there. Hell, he's the FIRST one to solve the hesitation problem. You come up here knowing s*** about Joe and what he has done to help out the MSP.

Now that Joe is done and you guys really don't have many options, I'll just laugh at every post I see about MSP owners wanting parts that Joe had.

As we all know, this forum went to Assville once the MSP people came aboard. And you sir, live on Buttcrack Lane.

Joe was the one who took the intiative on pretty much everything. He started increasing the boost. He started custom piping. He was the first with a FMIC. He was the ginea pig. No one here would have known much if it wasn't for him.

Joe, I know I can't apologize for the MSP owners, but I am sorry that you feel like your hard work isn't appreciated.

It's a shame. The MazdaSpeed doesn't have that many aftermarket support to begin with and now that's one less off the list. You guys just trashed the fastest MSP on the board and now it's going to be harder for you guys to duplicate him.
 
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I think so too, but I prefer the 70.5-73 Trans Am better, especially when the 455 came onboard in 71
 
heh..Hey Joe..I'll take your business for ya! Just teach me how to throw the pieces together and I can send you a certain percentage..I neeed me some extra cash!
 
redrims said:
I'm sorry, but 80% of you MSP people, or should I say spoiled children, are FUCKTARDS:mad:
I'm so sick of hearing you guys group us MSP owners together!! Or EXCUSE ME...80% of us. Just because a few people/kids/whoever were fortunate enough to have someone buy their car for them, doesn't mean we are all like that. Stop using god damn percentages unless you know the facts. How many MSP owners are on this board? How many post regularly? How many do nothing but complain?
Out of all the MSP owners on this site, you really think 80% are kids who were given this car? I'm 22. Do you think I'm still a kid? Does it matter that my dad co-signed for it? Does that make me a stuck up little rich kid? Bite your tongue next time you want to make a comment like that, or at least make it sound a little more real. When noobs come here and see they way MSP people get treated, it doesn't look good either. Yeah, there are a handful of people that ruin it for all of us, but that's it. A handful.
 
2K3 Mazdaspeed said:
I'm so sick of hearing you guys group us MSP owners together!! Or EXCUSE ME...80% of us. Just because a few people/kids/whoever were fortunate enough to have someone buy their car for them, doesn't mean we are all like that. Stop using god damn percentages unless you know the facts. How many MSP owners are on this board? How many post regularly? How many do nothing but complain?
Out of all the MSP owners on this site, you really think 80% are kids who were given this car? I'm 22. Do you think I'm still a kid? Does it matter that my dad co-signed for it? Does that make me a stuck up little rich kid? Bite your tongue next time you want to make a comment like that, or at least make it sound a little more real. When noobs come here and see they way MSP people get treated, it doesn't look good either. Yeah, there are a handful of people that ruin it for all of us, but that's it. A handful.

It's called exaggeration:rolleyes:, but it's more than a handful and maybe your in the 20%. Okay, 50% of you. Now its balanced.

I didn't call anyone out specifically. Being a kid or child is based off of maturity and immaturity. If you feel like a kid because your father cosigned for you, then thats you. My father also co-signed for my Protege, but I took the responsibility to pay for ALL my expenses myself. Now that I built up my credit, I was able to get a loan and pay for my Nissan myself.

Anywho, I only responded like that because I was upset at how hard he worked to make parts for the MSP to only get shot down like that. Put yourself in his shoes. You buy a car that already doesn't have much aftermarket support to begin with. You hear the cry of owners so, you go out of your way to custom make parts for this car. Now the people you are making products for are trying to give you a bad name because they can't get their parts overnight. They know that you have countless amount of orders to complete and that you have to work extra hard not to fall behind. You could be working on their part right now, but because they are impatient they go ahead and call pay-pal saying that you are a scammer. Now are you happy about that? I think not.

All in all, I'm not biting my tongue for no one. Yes, a lot of MSP owners are really cool. I've had the opportunity to meet a lot them and I've even become extremely good friends with a couple of them. With all that said, I still believe that thier are more than enough immature MSP owners that needs a spanking.

Think about it. For him to react like this, their must have been a substantial amount of impatient MSP owners who did this. I highly doubt he got upset over 1 or 2.
 
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it's all good.... understand perfectly things get busy and people get backlogged..... no biggy to me..... tho i'd love to know if mine has shipped yet or not (anticipation is killing me hehe)

anywho thanks for the efforts

clint.barton@sbcglobal.net
 
PayPal can actually freeze your account for up to 180 days!!!

Those who are filing complains are probably 18 anyway!!! They are using their parents CC account to open PPs account!!!

If you are having so much problem with PayPal you can always try some other payment method like check or money order...
 
I absolutely respect Joe's efforts and understand his complaint. However this is business. People try to make this about age or certain owners? I deal with this weekly in my business and these are with alleged adults, usually HR or Marketing directors of larger businesses. Just establish a specific turn around time, make it safely longer than you need and post that as your ETA on your website and auto response for orders. This is what I have done and it ends the problem almost all together.

People learn over time that the squeeky wheel gets the grease especially when it comes to customer service. Current customer service from most businesses teach consumers to send "whiney" emails. It's just a fact of life. Too often with many businesses it's the only way to get a response or a result.

Hell, the P5 and Mp3 owners have tried to make them stop being annoying ever since the MSP came out, and that s*** hasnt worked yet!

I'm so tired of these posts.
 
you cant bail on us dawg, for those ppl who dont have patience, cancel their orders and deprive them of your kick ass parts...some ppl jsut need to wait a little bit for the best things..
sorry to hear that your exploding about it...i hope those ppl read this and stop the whining and complaining..
 
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