Official P5 wheel thread.

[GHOSTWHISPER]

poseur is that whistler?

 

[registering]

Hmmm, I doubt the stock alloy wheel weighs 35 pounds; 16 pounds sounds a little more realistic. Not a bad weight for a stock wheel, actually, lighter than a lot of aftermarket wheels of the same size....

 

[Poseur]

poseur is that whistler?

Nope, Snoqualmie actually. Silly little driveway across from the rest stop up there. That's from when I went over to that Karting meet in seattle last month. My car waskinda dirty, relaly, etc, but the ligthing and everything was really nice so I parked and grabbed the camera.

 

[GordonJ]

Wow, Poseur, everytime I look at the pics of your car in the snow, I cringe. Do you have winter/snow tires on there?? How does your car even move??

I've got my car parked in the garage, and we had some snow and ice here a week or so back. Well its starting to melt away now, and there's only a little bit of slush left on the driveway, and as soon as my front tire hits it, it just spins like crazy and the car goes nowhere. It was so humiliating not being able to move on a tiny little bit of slush.

 

[Poseur]

*L* well I've got michelin arctic alpins on steelies that I normally run in the winter, but this year there's really been crap for snowfall here, so I've been lazy. Resorts aren't even open yet, so why bother? That was jsut the roadside patch of it, really it's a very heavily travelled freeway and temps are never much lower than 30. Butyes, not the best of traction in the white stuff. Not horrible, butyea...

 

[JOS3]

Oh, HEY! I totally forgot that I get to postup in here myself now...

'03 MSP Racing Harts
Espelir springs (claimed 1.4" drop F&R)
IN reality the rear seems to have dropped about that, maybe less and the front a bit more (which is good as I was ass-heavy before) measurd across the centercap of my wheels to the edge of the fender, I'm sitting at about 23-3/4 in the rear and 24 upfront. I seem to recall that prior to dropping it was 25 and 25.5 so about 1.5" drop upfront and 1-1/4 in the rear is close to reality. and seems about right.
I'm very pleased with this setup. Initially I'd got the 'speed wheels and hadn't really planned on much of a drop, but as soon as I drove it hard, I realized that all that extra traction had a negative effect on my handling balance. I was kind of torn between springs and a swaybar until the info on the new Espelir's started coming around, and it all looked favorable, stiffer rear rate relative to the front which in my theory relates to a quasi-swaybar setup. In reality I REALLY like the combo. Much more competent at speed. Cornering is very sharp and requires much less back and fourth on/off throttle input. Not to mention 40mph twisties are now 50mph twisties. it's THAT much of a difference. The end result is me with a grin on my face. Oh, and it doesn't look half bad either

how much did the springs run you, if you dont mind me asking? the more i read about the espelir springs, the more intrigued i get.

 

[1ofdfew323]

16x7" Rota GT3s +40 offset
195/50R16 Dunlop SP Sport 5000M

wow this car is awesome! does anyone know what kind of lowering springs this guys has? and if its rubbing on the fender? Does this +40 offset have to have a custom fit on the fender? you know likefolding the fender well?

I tried to PM people but lately it wont let me PM noone.

 

[L8R]

H&R springs

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72621

 

[SpookyP5]

215/45s v. 215/40s

Thread jack....kinda.....

This has been a real good post for me. I'm in the market for some rims - I'm thinking of the Rota Attacks - 17x7.5 @ +48offset.

What I really want to know is what size tire....215/45/17 or 215/40/17s?

I know that the 40s are closest to the stock tire height, BUT would be a firmer ride. The 45s were recommended for a daily driver like mine BUT will throw the speedo off due to being about an inch taller that stock. I have the Espilars with Tokico blues so I sit a little lower.

So what does everyone think? Are the 40's too rough?

Thanks all.
Peace
SpookP5

 

[bonesmp5]

i wouldnt say too rough -- but it depends on the tire too ---
you can buy a 40 thats ok with one brand but rough as hell with another brand -- But you will corner better with the rougher ones ---

instead of 215 --- try 205\45 -- this will keep you a tad bit closer on the speedo

 

[bonesmp5]

try this --- it ist allways 100% but it gives a good idea as to what you might see on the speedo with different tires



http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html


just put in the stock size then the size you want --- it'll tell you have fast the car is going when the speedo is at 60 ----

 

[SpookyP5]

Thanks....

bonesmp5, thanks.

I actually had that tire calc. thingy bookmarked but didn't know they did the calculation for you at the bottom. That's cool.

So, it depends on the tire - which makes sense. I'm gonna have to go into Auto RnD and talk with Rishie to get the skinny on which tire.

Thanks.
SpookyP5

 

[GhostLinker]

I'am running 17x7, 48mm offset, with 215/45-17's.
The car is dropped with Eibach prokit and Tokico Illuminas.

I had to roll the back fenders because the tires were rubbing with bad road conditions.

 

[SpookyP5]

Great Thread....

Thanks GhostLinker,

What brand/make of rims do you have (Pix?) and:

How did you roll back your fenders?

I'm thinking of the Rota Attacks which are actually 17x7.5 @ +48. Some posts say they rub, some don't - I guess it's just luck(??).

Since this is a wheel thread, has anyone heard of an offset larger that +48 for the P5/Protege/MSP? Wouldn't that cure the rubbing issue?

Hmmm....more searching I guess.

Thanks,
Peace
SpookyP5

 

[GhostLinker]

Wheels:
ADR kasai 17x7, 48mm offset.

Tires:
Vredestein Ultrac 215/45-17

http://www3.sympatico.ca/ciscoman/000_0462.JPG

 

[ghost]

Damn, alot of Ghosts arownd here nowadays,lol!!

 

[N2OInferno]

haha, my P5 is gimped.. i should take a picture. nail in the rear passenger tire so it has 3 17"s and one stock 16, lol.. I thought about getting some 16x7 slipstreams or something, but after seeing how much smaller the 16 looks i may not after all..

 

[GhostLinker]

more pics:

http://www3.sympatico.ca/ciscoman/000_0491.JPG
http://www3.sympatico.ca/ciscoman/000_0492.JPG

I had the fenders rolled by a performance Shop in Montreal.
They used this device:
http://www.bmw-m.net/Gallery/haweka.htm

and they charged me $50 + taxes for the deal. (cool)

I would not try it any other way.

 

[GhostLinker]

Nota bene ...

Tha car was not lowered on these pictures.

 

[anarchistchiken]

Slap some tint on those windows and that car will be insanely hot ghostlinker. It seems like it's missing something in those pics, but I think a nice tint job would clear it up.