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Reports out of chicago, Paxson will be stepping down as gm of the bulls. Never had the balls to pull off any big deals.
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Official 2008 NBA Thread
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the way they lost that game last night was a disgrace...they ******* had it....why would sefolosha be on the floor in that situation and even better be inbounding the ball...and have rose on the bench
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Yes I was effin screaming. That is why that team is 23-30. This team has to change.
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yeah no kidding i was screaming for joy when kirk got the ball...and was screaming WTF when they inbounded.....went from a high to a low..
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That is how it has been all season. Seriously you can't make the playoffs in the East???? effin pathetic.
Been hard watching the suns this year. Tough to watch good guys fall.
Porter is out... we all knew on friday pretty much.
I feel kinda bad for the guy that the decision wasn't made official til today and he was more or less left hanging there due to the all star game. Then the fact that he gets his full 3 year salary for only 4 months of bad work more than makes up for it.
Later Porter, don't let the doorknob impale you on the way out.
My rational side says that the suns were just never good enough and got some bad breaks with ownership/gm.
The irrational side says that pop sent in kerr to destroy the suns from the ground up before they became too meddlesome for him. lol.
If they trade Amare to the bulls or cavs for garbage, my feelings about kerr will be a little bit more homicidal. I fully plan to dropkick him to death in front of everyone at US airways center if he continues to bomb our team. Hopefully the coaching change was the last move they make this year and Kerr can remain richman dropkick free.
On another note, I made it out to the Suns/Spurs game a couple weeks ago, and witnessing manu flop in person is much more impressive. His 18 ft's almost matched the entire suns team, haha. Porter and his hack-a-bowen was beyond lame too and fans were going apeshit for his head. Such a punk move no matter what the team is.
Sanblaster... if you guys get amare which is looking pretty likely, that is awesome for you guys. If there is any doubt you should check out this little vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZjPnqzq_E0
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Porter is out... we all knew on friday pretty much.
I feel kinda bad for the guy that the decision wasn't made official til today and he was more or less left hanging there due to the all star game. Then the fact that he gets his full 3 year salary for only 4 months of bad work more than makes up for it.
Later Porter, don't let the doorknob impale you on the way out.
My rational side says that the suns were just never good enough and got some bad breaks with ownership/gm.
The irrational side says that pop sent in kerr to destroy the suns from the ground up before they became too meddlesome for him. lol.
If they trade Amare to the bulls or cavs for garbage, my feelings about kerr will be a little bit more homicidal. I fully plan to dropkick him to death in front of everyone at US airways center if he continues to bomb our team. Hopefully the coaching change was the last move they make this year and Kerr can remain richman dropkick free.
On another note, I made it out to the Suns/Spurs game a couple weeks ago, and witnessing manu flop in person is much more impressive. His 18 ft's almost matched the entire suns team, haha. Porter and his hack-a-bowen was beyond lame too and fans were going apeshit for his head. Such a punk move no matter what the team is.
Sanblaster... if you guys get amare which is looking pretty likely, that is awesome for you guys. If there is any doubt you should check out this little vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZjPnqzq_E0
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^^I was actually amazed they got rid of porter so soon. What they are 8 games over .500 and like a couple of games out of a playoff spot? Atleast let the guy coach till the end of the season. But they were saying on the allstar game and some of the players didnt listen to him. The suns would have been better off with Dantoni(spelling?). You guys got a lot of talent on ur team but lack proper guidiance. I wish my Warriors would try to go get Amare. That dude is a beast.
-Lakers are still topping the West. Looks like its going to be another Celtics and Lakers finals. Cant wait. Bynum needs to get his injured ass up and play. I think they have a sure chance of winning if he is in.
-Lakers are still topping the West. Looks like its going to be another Celtics and Lakers finals. Cant wait. Bynum needs to get his injured ass up and play. I think they have a sure chance of winning if he is in.
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^^I was actually amazed they got rid of porter so soon. What they are 8 games over .500 and like a couple of games out of a playoff spot? Atleast let the guy coach till the end of the season.
Not even after 12 hours after he was gone, there was already a couple stories from the players that had me going wtf. He had them up at 8AM after the first of a back to back... running lateral slides and passing drills. Day of the pistons game. wtf. This aint highschool ball.
Grant Hill gave a very moving speech after a loss that left the team feeling together for the first time a few weeks ago, which was then promptly erased by porter who came in immediately afterward with a tape that tore down everything the team did wrong. He had them all watch tape for several hours before dressing or showering. Ridiculous. His "system" never had a chance with these veterans from the start of training camp.
You say it was too short, I say it was too long. Porter is Kerr's buddy. Kerr is Sarvers buddy. None of them know wtf they are doing.
I guess if u guys can make a turn around now and get up to the 4th or 5th seed than yea porter was a waste of money.
But what are u expectations for the suns? You think they will be a contender with the Lakers, Spurs, Rockets and Jazz? If u lose Amare then i will sign the petition of Kerr being out of Phoenix. I just dont think they have enough fire power. You cant ride Shaq there all the way.
But what are u expectations for the suns? You think they will be a contender with the Lakers, Spurs, Rockets and Jazz? If u lose Amare then i will sign the petition of Kerr being out of Phoenix. I just dont think they have enough fire power. You cant ride Shaq there all the way.
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Sanblaster... if you guys get amare which is looking pretty likely, that is awesome for you guys. If there is any doubt you should check out this little vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZjPnqzq_E0
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I want! Except that is Stoudamire before his microfracture. He was a beast. I still am willing to take that risk. And the breaking of the team. That is how i felt after the 98 season. never been the same since. And what do the suns and bulls have in common right now...? Two ex bulls gms.
But what are u expectations for the suns? You think they will be a contender with the Lakers, Spurs, Rockets and Jazz? If u lose Amare then i will sign the petition of Kerr being out of Phoenix. I just dont think they have enough fire power. You cant ride Shaq there all the way.
Trying to put all homerism aside, I really honestly feel like the suns still have the best offensive team in the league on paper. Porter was brought in to put some more focus on defense... not to destroy our entire team. As for my expectations, it is hard to say actually. I wouldn't be surprised to see them move up to the 3rd or 4th spot, and depending on the rest of the seeding they might go a couple rounds deep. Who knows.
Contenders? Definitely wouldn't go that far yet, but I really liked what I saw from tonights game with Nash back at the helm. Yeah yeah the clippers, I know, but I haven't seen the Suns play like that in a long long time. It was like someone turned the clock back to 2006. All season long they were turning these easy games into tough ones, and it was awesome to see them actually flowing on offense for a change. Lots of pick and roll, tons of backscreens all over the place, more like the organized chaos I used to love watching. I don't think any team in the league would've beat them tonight... almost seemed unstoppable. If they keep this up I think they are way better than Utah/Houston/Portland and will give SA/LA a good run for their money.
In summary of tonight...
At halftime, they were shooting 74% from the floor and had 81 points.
They owned the boards (58 to 21).
15 steals, and held them to 43% shooting.
They were up by 52 with a minute to play.
All of the starters got pulled with 6mins left in the third.
Lone blemish - 22 freakin turnovers (puke) (not counting the one on Amundsons face from the Z-bo cheapshot).
I bet Gentry is stoked, and Porter is like (sad1)
(breakn)
The suns are BACK.
I want! Except that is Stoudamire before his microfracture. He was a beast. I still am willing to take that risk. And the breaking of the team. That is how i felt after the 98 season. never been the same since. And what do the suns and bulls have in common right now...? Two ex bulls gms.
He's still a beast, and from all accounts is staying in phoenix. (rockon)
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bulls and pistons... and bobcats. a fight for the last 2 playoff spots in the east. How exciting. what a race..
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Nuggets dismantle Hornets, 121-63
wow.
wow.
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bulls tipoff now!!!!
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bulls up at halftime.
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yeah no kidding what a game....honestly best playoff series ive ever seen....EVAR!
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King James left the playoffs as a loser
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
Jun 1, 3:20 pm EDT
From Adrian Wojnarowski
I’m a winner, King James proclaimed. So, there you go. That’s his reason for rushing out of the conference finals without so much as a nod to Dwight Howard(notes) and the Orlando Magic. That’s his reason for marching to the bus and letting the Cleveland Cavaliers’ spare parts take care of his responsibilities in the interview room.
Funny, but James stayed on the court to make sure the Detroit Pistons and Atlanta Hawks paid respect to him. As it turns out, there’s one thing allowed to happen at the end of a playoff series: Everyone bows down and kisses the King’s ring. Only, LeBron doesn’t have a ring. He’s never won a game in the NBA Finals.
So, yes, maybe they just have to kiss his feet.
“It’s not being a poor sport or anything like that,” James said.
No, nothing like that. Yes, James cares so much that it isn’t possible to be gracious and humbled.
You know me, he told the reporters in Cleveland on Sunday. I’m a competitor. “If somebody beats you up, you’re not going to congratulate them,” James said. “It doesn’t make sense for me to go over and shake somebody’s hand.”
Here’s the question: Who has the guts to tell him that he sounds like an immature, self-absorbed brat?
Here’s the problem for the Cavaliers and James: No one.
It won’t be Cleveland Cavaliers ownership, front office and coaches. It won’t be the NBA. It won’t be Nike. And it sure won’t be those childhood sycophants who surround James and tell everyone what a brilliant businessman LeBron is because they can answer the phone when corporations call for a famous pitchman.
LeBron doesn’t want to win more than Michael Jordan did, but Jordan could stop and shake a winner’s hand. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird could, too. Julius Erving did. Kobe Bryant(notes). Isiah Thomas led a walkout after losing to the Chicago Bulls after winning two NBA titles, but Joe Dumars never followed him. He stayed and shook Jordan’s hand, the way Jordan had always shook his when the Pistons had beaten him.
“M.J. had stopped, shook my hand and hugged me three straight years that we had beaten them in the playoffs,” Dumars once told me. “There was no way I was walking off the court without shaking the Bulls’ hands.”
Within the Cavs, someone needed to tell James that he embarrassed himself and the franchise, but that won’t happen. They’re too scared of him. Most league executives with knowledge of Cleveland’s operation believe it’s far more of an ownership issue, than basketball operations.
If general manager Danny Ferry and coach Mike Brown privately disdain the ridiculous posing for pictures that James started with his teammates on a 13-game winning streak, the owner is believed to see the foolishness as a marketing dream.
Someone should’ve told James that the pregame Polaroid act was belittling and beneath a championship contender, but it never happened.
All season, the Cavaliers acted too entitled, too arrogant for a team that’s won nothing. They ran out demanding that Mo Williams(notes) be made an All-Star, when the truth bore itself out in the playoffs: Cleveland has one All-Star. Nevertheless, Williams still embarrassed the Cavs with foolish proclamations and guarantees his middling talent couldn’t deliver.
“If you believe in karma with that nonsense,” one Western Conference executive said, “then Cleveland got what was coming to them.”
The Cavaliers are terrified of James. When you’re around them, it’s sometimes embarrassing to watch the way they tip-toe and grovel with him. In their defense, that’s how James wants it. As a childhood prodigy, that’s all LeBron’s ever known. The Cavs are at his mercy until he becomes a free agent in July of 2010, and that isn’t going to change. There’s no chance that he signs an extension this summer, because that would be the end of the drama, the intrigue and LeBron James(notes) isn’t letting that go away.
Now, Ferry goes back to the phones and starts work on surrounding James with championship talent. Cleveland is sure to revisit the Shaquille O’Neal(notes) talks with the Phoenix Suns, and James and his associates will send out word that, hey, we’ll go to New York unless the Cavs deliver him his title. Well, they’ve reached the NBA Finals and had the best record in the NBA within the past three seasons, so they must have surrounded James with something that works there.
Nevertheless, James distanced himself in losing again, after a season in which he sold himself as all for one, and one for all. James had been an MVP until the very final moments of the basketball season, and then, he embarrassed himself and acted like a petulant kid. In a world where everyone in his life is too fearful or too dependent, LeBron James goes into the summer believing his own nonsense that he walked out of this season a winner.
As usual, there’s no one to tell him.
Except maybe now, Kobe’s puppet.
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
Jun 1, 3:20 pm EDT
From Adrian Wojnarowski
I’m a winner, King James proclaimed. So, there you go. That’s his reason for rushing out of the conference finals without so much as a nod to Dwight Howard(notes) and the Orlando Magic. That’s his reason for marching to the bus and letting the Cleveland Cavaliers’ spare parts take care of his responsibilities in the interview room.
Funny, but James stayed on the court to make sure the Detroit Pistons and Atlanta Hawks paid respect to him. As it turns out, there’s one thing allowed to happen at the end of a playoff series: Everyone bows down and kisses the King’s ring. Only, LeBron doesn’t have a ring. He’s never won a game in the NBA Finals.
So, yes, maybe they just have to kiss his feet.
“It’s not being a poor sport or anything like that,” James said.
No, nothing like that. Yes, James cares so much that it isn’t possible to be gracious and humbled.
You know me, he told the reporters in Cleveland on Sunday. I’m a competitor. “If somebody beats you up, you’re not going to congratulate them,” James said. “It doesn’t make sense for me to go over and shake somebody’s hand.”
Here’s the question: Who has the guts to tell him that he sounds like an immature, self-absorbed brat?
Here’s the problem for the Cavaliers and James: No one.
It won’t be Cleveland Cavaliers ownership, front office and coaches. It won’t be the NBA. It won’t be Nike. And it sure won’t be those childhood sycophants who surround James and tell everyone what a brilliant businessman LeBron is because they can answer the phone when corporations call for a famous pitchman.
LeBron doesn’t want to win more than Michael Jordan did, but Jordan could stop and shake a winner’s hand. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird could, too. Julius Erving did. Kobe Bryant(notes). Isiah Thomas led a walkout after losing to the Chicago Bulls after winning two NBA titles, but Joe Dumars never followed him. He stayed and shook Jordan’s hand, the way Jordan had always shook his when the Pistons had beaten him.
“M.J. had stopped, shook my hand and hugged me three straight years that we had beaten them in the playoffs,” Dumars once told me. “There was no way I was walking off the court without shaking the Bulls’ hands.”
Within the Cavs, someone needed to tell James that he embarrassed himself and the franchise, but that won’t happen. They’re too scared of him. Most league executives with knowledge of Cleveland’s operation believe it’s far more of an ownership issue, than basketball operations.
If general manager Danny Ferry and coach Mike Brown privately disdain the ridiculous posing for pictures that James started with his teammates on a 13-game winning streak, the owner is believed to see the foolishness as a marketing dream.
Someone should’ve told James that the pregame Polaroid act was belittling and beneath a championship contender, but it never happened.
All season, the Cavaliers acted too entitled, too arrogant for a team that’s won nothing. They ran out demanding that Mo Williams(notes) be made an All-Star, when the truth bore itself out in the playoffs: Cleveland has one All-Star. Nevertheless, Williams still embarrassed the Cavs with foolish proclamations and guarantees his middling talent couldn’t deliver.
“If you believe in karma with that nonsense,” one Western Conference executive said, “then Cleveland got what was coming to them.”
The Cavaliers are terrified of James. When you’re around them, it’s sometimes embarrassing to watch the way they tip-toe and grovel with him. In their defense, that’s how James wants it. As a childhood prodigy, that’s all LeBron’s ever known. The Cavs are at his mercy until he becomes a free agent in July of 2010, and that isn’t going to change. There’s no chance that he signs an extension this summer, because that would be the end of the drama, the intrigue and LeBron James(notes) isn’t letting that go away.
Now, Ferry goes back to the phones and starts work on surrounding James with championship talent. Cleveland is sure to revisit the Shaquille O’Neal(notes) talks with the Phoenix Suns, and James and his associates will send out word that, hey, we’ll go to New York unless the Cavs deliver him his title. Well, they’ve reached the NBA Finals and had the best record in the NBA within the past three seasons, so they must have surrounded James with something that works there.
Nevertheless, James distanced himself in losing again, after a season in which he sold himself as all for one, and one for all. James had been an MVP until the very final moments of the basketball season, and then, he embarrassed himself and acted like a petulant kid. In a world where everyone in his life is too fearful or too dependent, LeBron James goes into the summer believing his own nonsense that he walked out of this season a winner.
As usual, there’s no one to tell him.
Except maybe now, Kobe’s puppet.
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