New STF SCCA Class Thread
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- 2012 Touring MT
Are you talking about the front one are you? He wrote rear, if there is a rear adjustable that would be nice.
Andres
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- 2012 Touring MT
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So is Mr Hollis going to give us some info on the set up of the car running at the Texas Tour?
Thanks
Andres
Thanks
Andres
Andy Hollis
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Sure, but there's not much to say.
My white car is still bone stock, so we borrowed the track rat (teen driving school car) from our local road course, Harris Hill Road. This one is a blue 2011 with H&R lowering springs and a Racing Reat rear bar. We mounted my 15x7.5" SSRs with R1R's that I have leftover from the Civic. That's it. Pulled the spare/jack/mats and ran it on flashing "E".
Car is a slug without drivetrain mods. Seriously slow acceleration. The pedal on the right should not be referred to as an "accelerator" as it fails in that regard. I see it as a "stop slowing down" pedal. Floor it to hold speed, release to slow down.
And it really needs shocks, which we are still waiting on. So....today I pulled the trigger on a set of K-Sports that the previous owner of the blue track rat still had (they were advertised on this forum 6 months ago) and were on CL and eBay for a pretty reasonable price. That should get me by for awhile. The springs are 60mm so I can use some 2.5" ones I have laying around to up the spring rates beyond what the kit comes with. PO slotted the strut mounts for camber, too.
Edit: Funny...the blue 2 from the track is the car in the photo on the first page of your build thread, Andres. And the coilovers I just bought are those that were on that car. You say that K-Sport is going to work with you on updates...tell me more.
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Clemsonmz3
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No oomph problems in the 3...that was plainly evident on the starts at Dixie Day 1. There are plenty of problems with the oomph sticking to the asphalt though, open diff isn't very nice either.
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- 2012 Touring MT
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- 2012 Touring MT
Sure, but there's not much to say.
My white car is still bone stock, so we borrowed the track rat (teen driving school car) from our local road course, Harris Hill Road. This one is a blue 2011 with H&R lowering springs and a Racing Reat rear bar. We mounted my 15x7.5" SSRs with R1R's that I have leftover from the Civic. That's it. Pulled the spare/jack/mats and ran it on flashing "E".
Car is a slug without drivetrain mods. Seriously slow acceleration. The pedal on the right should not be referred to as an "accelerator" as it fails in that regard. I see it as a "stop slowing down" pedal. Floor it to hold speed, release to slow down.
And it really needs shocks, which we are still waiting on. So....today I pulled the trigger on a set of K-Sports that the previous owner of the blue track rat still had (they were advertised on this forum 6 months ago) and were on CL and eBay for a pretty reasonable price. That should get me by for awhile. The springs are 60mm so I can use some 2.5" ones I have laying around to up the spring rates beyond what the kit comes with. PO slotted the strut mounts for camber, too.
Edit: Funny...the blue 2 from the track is the car in the photo on the first page of your build thread, Andres. And the coilovers I just bought are those that were on that car. You say that K-Sport is going to work with you on updates...tell me more.
Small world...
You will feel the difference between H&R and K-Sports, I started with H&R's good but not enough.
As far as working with K-Sport, forget about it, talked to them yesterday, not the same guy I talked first, I knew he was not going to take me anywhere when he mentioned the "parking lot racing" term. he's a road racer, you know. Anyways he really did know too much about the product for the 2, he mentioned that his "friends" that road race their mazda 2 locally are happy with their K-sport set up; the other guy probably knows a little bit more. Anyways my last conversation with them did not leave a good taste in my mouth.
I will try something else, somewhere else, for now I'm happy with the K-Sports even though I feel the body roll present. I'm going to focus for now on the engine department, I know the 2 is a great car for the class and with better suspension and more power will be unbeatable is way more competitive in STF than what my Spyder was in STR.
This weekend I will testing my RS3 versus R1R again on concrete, so far the RS3's were much faster on concrete once they warmed up. I want to learn how to make the Toyo's work , liked my contingency money
Love my car every day more
Andres
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How was the damping with the H&R springs on stock shocks? Ridiculous pogo-sticking or not that bad?
For someone who will autoX occasionally (but unlikely at your level), and daily drive the 2 would the H&R springs be a reasonable option? Or should I definitely just skip it and save for coilovers?
Any reason you guys are choosing K-Sports versus the Bilsteins?
For someone who will autoX occasionally (but unlikely at your level), and daily drive the 2 would the H&R springs be a reasonable option? Or should I definitely just skip it and save for coilovers?
Any reason you guys are choosing K-Sports versus the Bilsteins?
Andy Hollis
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The H&R springs aren't bad at all with the stock dampers. It is a good value oriented first step. Better shocks will make a bigger difference, but at a larger price. You get what you pay for.
And the only reason I went with K Sport was I needed a temporary solution while my AST's are being built. In fact, I'll have them for sale once I get the ASTs.
Andy Hollis
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Finally got started working on my car. K-Sports are in and the PO slotted them to give some camber adjustment. Still not enough, but it's a step in the right direction. Also swapped out the battery for a 2 lb lithium piece. Going to work on the seats next. I'll use my Kirkey that I always use for the driver and I have a 99 Miata sport seat for the passenger side. I'll fab some non-adjustable mounts for that so it will come in right around 25 lbs.
Click on the link in my sig for details and pics, or go to HollisRacing.com.
Click on the link in my sig for details and pics, or go to HollisRacing.com.
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This is amazing we are doing the same steps and we have not even talked about it !!!
Andres
Andy Hollis
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Just added some stuff on Mazda 2 STF race weights, including final targets. If that direct link doesn't work, use the one in the sig and read the Notes.
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That's really awesome, i had the chance to weight the car at Dixie..pretty light compare to the Mini.
Andres
Andy Hollis
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Have not done my usual homework just yet. That will come later. For now, I just want the car basically running for the MW Pro Solo next weekend. When One Lap is done (first week of May), I'll start serious work on my autocross program.
