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I hear what you're saying... but it still doesn't make any sense to me. I drove my buddies new Si recently and, while I was impressed in virtually every way, I couldn't get over the fact that you had to rev the s*** out of the thing in order to get any decent power.

Beleive me.. I'm with you. I tried hard to turn my SI in for a MS3, but it's just not financially sound when I'm just heading into college.

I didn't think about it before I bought it, but I don't like having to rev it up to 39002313 RPMs to get any power out of it. I feel like I'm abusing the hell out of it every time I want any sort of fun. My point is that some people DO like that, though. That is the sole reason they bought the car - it was the highest revving N/A sports compact they could get for that price, and that's what they wanted.

I like Honda/Acura, especially the RSX Type S :) And the S2000! Just happen to think the Mazda are a slightly better value (if you intend to keep your car).

Again, I agree. The MS3 just packs more for the money (things like fog lights being standard, 18 in wheels, auto climate control, amongst the power upgrades) all for nearly the same price. However the SI was still a good buy for me because in 1-2 years when I get a different car, I'll still get most of the value of the car back. But yes I do agree, mazda gives you more value for the money. I think they do this because they have a name they want to build up, whereas honda already has a good rep and they can just kinda give what they want and know you'll be happy.
 
Lolz... and then after it makes the 1/4 mile pass, the engine will s*** out and the body panels will fall off it? Please, dont' compare a protege to the build quiality of a honda. Any honda.. I'd rock a honda fit before a mazda protege.

You can get all worked up as you want, I take comfort in knowing that it'll take 500k miles before my honda civic is worth as much as your protege is with 70k miles on it (headbang)

yup, i bet, go break down on the ******* rail road tracks you shmuck, i have the mazdaspeed, ur civic wont even be worth a mint flavored turd so shut the **** up
 
yup, i bet, go break down on the ******* rail road tracks you shmuck, i have the mazdaspeed, ur civic wont even be worth a mint flavored turd so shut the **** up

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Harsh but I agree. I'm all for open debate and of course I don't expect everyone to bow down to everything Mazda, but that guy comes in here with his Honda superiority complex, flapping his jaws spouting negative stuff about Mazda constantly (half of which is complete BS) and it's clear he's just talking out his ass. And he wouldn't get it through his thick skull that many on here could give two s**** about his SI and its high revving torqueless motor. Go over to ClubSI and have a big SI circle-jerk over there.
 
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Harsh but I agree. I'm all for open debate and of course I don't expect everyone to bow down to everything Mazda, but that guy comes in here with his Honda superiority complex, flapping his jaws spouting negative stuff about Mazda constantly (half of which is complete BS) and it's clear he's just talking out his ass. And he wouldn't get it through his thick skull that many on here could give two s**** about his SI and its high revving torqueless motor. Go over to ClubSI and have a big SI circle-jerk over there.


hahaha, yes, thank you for the backup(cabpatch)
 
8thcivic.com. We OWN the 8th gen civics, why don't you ask them what the selling point of the car is? I will s*** my pants, delete my username over here, and praise you as a god if the vast majority of them say that th 8k rpm redline IS NOT a selling point.
Look, I'll simply leave you with a question that should make things clear for you. How can a selling point also be the main contributor of the number #1 thing people (you being one of them remember) hate about it?

I will agree with one thing though - it wouldn't sell as well to the people who enjoy hi-reving engines. But it would sell more overall ;)
 
It's the other way around.. Toyota still gets most of their parts from Japan but they're manufactured in Kentucky to save on costs of importing.

Exactly... manufactured in Kentucky... dodge hase various parts manufactured in Mexico.. canada yada yada..... In either case, buying one over the other does no more damage to foreign comapanies...
 
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Harsh but I agree. I'm all for open debate and of course I don't expect everyone to bow down to everything Mazda, but that guy comes in here with his Honda superiority complex, flapping his jaws spouting negative stuff about Mazda constantly (half of which is complete BS) and it's clear he's just talking out his ass. And he wouldn't get it through his thick skull that many on here could give two s**** about his SI and its high revving torqueless motor. Go over to ClubSI and have a big SI circle-jerk over there.

Lawl are you retarded? I like the MS3 more than my SI, I tried trading in for it.. since you can't even comprehend THAT much, I'll just ignore the rest of your post since you obviously suck at reading.

Look, I'll simply leave you with a question that should make things clear for you. How can a selling point also be the main contributor of the number #1 thing people (you being one of them remember) hate about it?

I will agree with one thing though - it wouldn't sell as well to the people who enjoy hi-reving engines. But it would sell more overall ;)

Because I'm not like most SI lovers, apparently. I posted something on the 8thcivic about how I wish we had more low-end and EVERYONE started screaming at me for buying the SI if I didn't want a high-revving machine. THAT is what they like about the SI. Trust me when I say.. 70+% of the 8th (at least) wouldn't of gotten the SI if it revved to 6.5k.
 
thats just because poor deprived Si fanbois can't imagine power down low(confused)

Torque is the devil!!(laugh) If torque was good for us, the Honda Gods would have bestowed it upon us

(bow)All hail VTEC!!

blinded by their own ignorance.... sad thing, really
 
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Because I'm not like most SI lovers, apparently. I posted something on the 8thcivic about how I wish we had more low-end and EVERYONE started screaming at me for buying the SI if I didn't want a high-revving machine. THAT is what they like about the SI. Trust me when I say.. 70+% of the 8th (at least) wouldn't of gotten the SI if it revved to 6.5k.

They are right, you shouldn't have bought the SI in the first place. However if Honda came out with a boosted SI making 250/270 hp/tq that redlined at 6.5k 90% would trade or sell their current SIs in a heartbeat.
 
I'm not the one driving an SI now am I? Only a retard would buy an SI over an MS3 and then cry about the lack of torque.

Hrmm whose crying about lack of torque? I said I didn't like having the power-band up high, not crying over the lack of torque.

Go look at true race-cars with like 900 hp.. guess how much torque they have? 200-300? Torque isn't needed for speed.. that's why you'll see lil hondas running 10 second passes all day..

Anyways, this isn't about hondas. It's about SRT-4s.. so maybe keep it on topic instead of looking at ways of bashing the most popular sports compact out there :S
 
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