ok guys, let me know what you think...ive been bogged down, so im sorry for the mess up and the fact that ive been running behind...im averaging 6 requests per day. who ever that is that came up with the sig idea with the misaligned images, i hope you dont mind that i borrowed your idea, im giving you credit here i need to start getting a bit more creative now that there are so many of my sigs out there, i dont want them to all look the same.