New FMIC

[UnNaturalinc]

judging by the one above he'll just buy someone elses,and copy it.

plagiarizing-to use and pass off(the idea's or writings of another)as ones own.

GReddy had a good design for the pipe routing. There was no reason to re-route the pipes on that kit. If they were better routed elsewhere, we would have done so. We improved upon their design, yes. With the end user in mind, we were able to create an improved, higher efficient product with competitive pricing.

For the Proteges, we are not out to copy anyone's kit. It will be built from scratch to the specs we find most suitable for these cars.

 

[jeffmsp]

see if you can make it so that the entire mouth is covered by the IC, thats sexy.

 

[wicked]

lol, thats funny, worring about a CARB legal intake when the rest of the system isn't CARB legal anyways.... kinda splitting hairs no?

intercoolers and routing is legal by all means,it's just that open elaments,and atmospheric items aren't unless approved.

 

[RyanJayG]

intercoolers and routing is legal by all means,it's just that open elaments,and atmospheric items aren't unless approved.

not quite true my friend....

DEFINITIONS

• Air Filter/Intake Modification - open element air filters, modifications to the air flow intake tract, heat risers/preheat ducts.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/aftermktdevice.php

^^^ is a list of intercooler kits that are apporoved by the C.A.R.B.

 

[sXe]

see if you can make it so that the entire mouth is covered by the IC, thats sexy.

for sure do that

make it so there is no cutting or replacing the bumper support.... a nice routing of pipes so that the air flows easily... make it come with a BOV... other fun stuff... make it like the MAM but covering the whole mouth..... plzplz

 

[Demonic-Speed]

Ummm all you did was copy the design of the greddy....What is the MSP kit going to look like ION? I am pretty sure there are laws against just copying someones design.

I am not knocking, I am stating what it looks like.

 

[UnNaturalinc]

Ummm all you did was copy the design of the greddy....What is the MSP kit going to look like ION? I am pretty sure there are laws against just copying someones design.

I am not knocking, I am stating what it looks like.

This was brought up and I addressed it already. Please read the 6th post down on the second page. Thank you

 

[Demonic-Speed]

LOL my bad....At least I was not the only one that saw it

 

[wicked]

not quite true my friend....

[/list] http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/aftermktdevice.php

^^^ is a list of intercooler kits that are apporoved by the C.A.R.B.

thats how they are written,but according to the man how wrote those laws,Joe Casolary,it doesn't matter what has been done,if all factory emmisions components are still there,and in correct place.and must still pass 5 gas analysis.

 

[RyanJayG]

thats how they are written,but according to the man how wrote those laws,Joe Casolary,it doesn't matter what has been done,if all factory emmisions components are still there,and in correct place.and must still pass 5 gas analysis.

I understand that... my point was not to show a list of certified kits, but to show that there ARE certified kits. did that make sense?

I'm just trying to illistrate that there IS a CARB certification for IC kits, therefore changing an intercooler kit but retaining a CARB cert. intake is pointless.

 

[03MSPRO]

judging by the one above he'll just buy someone elses,and copy it.

plagiarizing-to use and pass off(the idea's or writings of another)as ones own.

there is noyhing wrong making it better and more affordable.

 

[Brian MP5T]

F-Ing Sweet. I was wonering if you could make a doublepass.

 

[noclue119]

there is noyhing wrong making it better and more affordable.

ya until u got sued for copy right infrigement.

 

[wicked]

there is noyhing wrong making it better and more affordable.

ther is something wrong with a company spending thousands of dollers to make a product top of the line,then have the guy next door see it and make it himself,so they never make thier money back.

when that kind of s*** happens people stop putting in as much into thier work,then nothing new gets developed,then your stuck with a bunch of bad companies who can't innovate,or produce new things.


(gtfo) if you start copying the companies on this forum you will push them out,and you don't want to do that since there are allready so few.

shmuck.

 

[UnNaturalinc]

Hey everyone... We are still interested creating these kits. And possibly a turbo header also.

We've created a couple turbo kits and IC kits in the past few months. Great response on them. I'd like to be able to offer more product for the Proteges.

 

[Riles]

I gotta say, your price range doesn't really appeal to me. We already have 3 or 4 kits in that range- how would yours be any different than the others? We've got intercoolers with huge cores, good routing, easy installation. There is even a good kit for $760 (although it has steel pipes). What are your pipes made of?

What's the point of competing with the other products if you really don't have anything that sets yourself apart? (Price, function, etc.) You're just taking minimal business away from the loyal vendors at our site that have been here long before.

Since I see no difference in your product, you are the equivalent of a generic medicine or bagged cereal, except you don't offer a price advantage like those products do.

There's only one good turbo header out there (Mental Addiction) and one cast one (HiBoost), so maybe there's room there. But at that price, I wouldn't do the fmic unless your fab costs are really low.

But, thats just my opinion and everybody gets one!

 

[Shadow102]

^^^^i agree unless you can tell me as a consumer y to buy from you over another company. as it stands i am looking into a hiboost FMIC since it is in the $800 range or possibly the MAM kit since it offers so much. As for the turbo manifold MAM has proven themselves with making an awesome manifold however their price is extremely steep for anyone pushing stock boost if you could do a tubular manifold and bring price down alot you would have alot of people banging at your door for one

 

[MSP #167]

I gotta say, your price range doesn't really appeal to me. We already have 3 or 4 kits in that range- how would yours be any different than the others? We've got intercoolers with huge cores, good routing, easy installation. There is even a good kit for $760 (although it has steel pipes). What are your pipes made of?

What's the point of competing with the other products if you really don't have anything that sets yourself apart? (Price, function, etc.) You're just taking minimal business away from the loyal vendors at our site that have been here long before.

Since I see no difference in your product, you are the equivalent of a generic medicine or bagged cereal, except you don't offer a price advantage like those products do.

There's only one good turbo header out there (Mental Addiction) and one cast one (HiBoost), so maybe there's room there. But at that price, I wouldn't do the fmic unless your fab costs are really low.

But, thats just my opinion and everybody gets one!

good point...but this site is not a monopoly...if he has interest let them make it Why are you trying to push products for our cars out.

we don't have that much support as it is...maybe down the road they will make something that more people need at a good price.

 

[CChris704]

alright i really don't want to read everyone elses threads because i'm lazy but anyways heres how it is for me at least. I plan on getting a FMIC for me and I know I am going to be trying to find the one with the best power and reliability for the least amount of money because I am poor. But, with a FMIC i'm going to want some rice abillity also so I can show it off to all my friends and be like "whats up i have the biggest." But anyways, from the price that you gave it looks like you're going to be in the same range as hiboost so if ya'll can make a product better than them and prove it. You have my business.

 

[jeffmsp]

lol bunch of crybabies.wadda you guys have stock in MAM and Hiboost or something, every other market in the world has competition like this. he can do whatever he wants. if i were him id just make it already and post up pics and prices, $30 less than every other company out there lol with free shipping and tacobell coupons.