New 5 owner hoping for better days

MXV4s are nice riding tires, but they just don't have the stick that I want for the price. There's a damn good reason why a lot of manufacturers use them as an OEM tire though- good enough performance for how much someone's typically willing to push a car during a test drive, and great ride/noise.
 
Update: I seem to have forgotten (or resigned myself to) the impression of cheapness and am now fretting over MPG - ~20 this week, ~24 last week, ~21 the week before. Will the disappointment ever end...

I'm driving for a field trip next week- can't wait to see how it does with 4 third graders in the back.
 
Take it easy dude. Your mpg will fluctuate wildly depending on the driving during that tank. I went from 21mpg, to 28.5 down to 24. Just enjoy the ride!(hippy)
 
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Update: I seem to have forgotten (or resigned myself to) the impression of cheapness and am now fretting over MPG - ~20 this week, ~24 last week, ~21 the week before. Will the disappointment ever end...

I'm driving for a field trip next week- can't wait to see how it does with 4 third graders in the back.

Seriously dude just relax and enjoy the ride. If MPGs were your focus you should have gotten a Prius V but then you would have given up one seat and the nice zoom zoom. (burnout)
 
I suggest you don’t read internet posting and apply emotion into it. You are only frustrating yourself.

The mediocre MPG is a valid complaint but if you had done your research via fuelecommy.gov or fuelly.com this should not be a surprise. Even though your car has a “2013” stamp, it still uses a very old engine designed that peaked in the late ‘90s, early ‘00s when MPG was not a top priority. At least you know it is tried and true. It’s still not bad when considering the real world MPG returns compared to other vehicles capable of carrying 6+ people or this size/weight range. I do wish it can average a little better. I have hopes that the ECU tune in another thread will return good MPG results.


If the car makes you unhappy trade it in for something that does. I suggest you rent whichever car/van for a week first.
 
I suggest you don’t read internet posting and apply emotion into it. You are only frustrating yourself.

No frustration, I just don’t appreciate being referred to as “dude”. It’s a pretty insolent way of addressing somebody you don’t even know.

The mediocre MPG is a valid complaint but if you had done your research via fuelecommy.gov or fuelly.com this should not be a surprise. …

If the car makes you unhappy trade it in for something that does. I suggest you rent whichever car/van for a week first.

I’m just surprised that today, in 2013, ANY new car gets mileage in the low 20s. Whatever happened to CAF standards? Having not done the new/newish car thing in 10+ years (my only exposure to other newer cars has been rentals for road trips-which is how we were introduced to the M5-and who really pays attention to mileage while on vacation?) I am admittedly being nave. But still, however nave, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect better, if not more competitive, mileage numbers than I’ve gotten thus far. The first thing anybody asks me about the new car is if it gets good mileage, and with chagrin I have to reply “ah… no.” This is the first vehicle that I haven’t gotten better than 8 days of normal day to day around town driving out of a tank (avg fill up of ~13gal) of gas. With this car, the gas light seems to usually come on the evening of the 6th day. To be fair though, I’m yet to get it out for an extended road trip of hwy miles. Hopefully that’ll be better. You (or whoever) are right, I should relax and enjoy the ride. Afterall, we were attracted to the car enough to actually buy one. It has a very dedicated following, so if others are generally happy with it, and by correlation with everything I have seen as a fault, then my faults are probably unfounded and I should be happy too.

I won’t mention the driver’s side floor mat issue…
 
No frustration, I just don’t appreciate being referred to as “dude”. It’s a pretty insolent way of addressing somebody you don’t even know.

Sorry Biber it's an endearing term I use loosely as well as "homie" but I know it can come across as rude. Anyway, enjoy your ride and don't let the mediocre MPG put a damper on your overall feeling of your MZ5. Peace!
 
Sorry Biber it's an endearing term I use loosely as well as "homie" but I know it can come across as rude. Anyway, enjoy your ride and don't let the mediocre MPG put a damper on your overall feeling of your MZ5. Peace!

Fair enough.
 
I’m just surprised that today, in 2013, ANY new car gets mileage in the low 20s. Whatever happened to CAF standards?
My $0.02: Most, if not all MPG ratings touted over the radio/internet/tv are inflated. Problem is, the EPA uses a very conformal test. Every mfr knows what the test entails. They also know that being able to advertise high MPGs sells cars, so most submit cars to the EPA that are formulated to perform the best on the test. How else did Hyundai achieve 40+mpg on all their passenger cars, then get sued b/c real-world driving meant that owners were getting 25+% LESS MPGs than stated? In reality, there are only 2 ways to increase MPGs - lower weight and reduce power. If Americans would settle for 0-60 times of 12+ sec like they do in Europe, we could get 50+ mpg cars using no gimmicks like hybrid technology.
Having not done the new/newish car thing in 10+ years (my only exposure to other newer cars has been rentals for road trips-which is how we were introduced to the M5-and who really pays attention to mileage while on vacation?) I am admittedly being nave. But still, however nave, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect better, if not more competitive, mileage numbers than I’ve gotten thus far. The first thing anybody asks me about the new car is if it gets good mileage, and with chagrin I have to reply “ah… no.” This is the first vehicle that I haven’t gotten better than 8 days of normal day to day around town driving out of a tank (avg fill up of ~13gal) of gas. With this car, the gas light seems to usually come on the evening of the 6th day.
You must do some serious daily city commuting. W/o A/C, our 2.3L 5MT can get 24 mpg all city, very very rarely going more than 1 mile w/o stopping at a light, usually 1/2 mi or less. We get 14-16 days between fillups, usually 14 gal or so. I have heard the 5AT can do almost as good. You may want to extend the driver's seat back 1 click, since I found that being closer to the pedal reduces my mpgs since its easier to "get on it" without realizing it.
To be fair though, I’m yet to get it out for an extended road trip of hwy miles. Hopefully that’ll be better. You (or whoever) are right, I should relax and enjoy the ride. Afterall, we were attracted to the car enough to actually buy one. It has a very dedicated following, so if others are generally happy with it, and by correlation with everything I have seen as a fault, then my faults are probably unfounded and I should be happy too.
Don't self-deprecate here. Yes, we generally like our cars. Its why we come back often. There are others who have not been so enamored, and they left/traded/sent the car over a cliff. Obviously you are having some issues. We have offered some suggestions. Some may work, some may not. Baseline is that the Mazda5 is a MPV based on an economy car built by a smaller company that has recently been divorced from its parent-company funding source. I have a long list of gripes regarding cheap parts. But the parts that matter - drivetrain and frame, are sound, and to me that's what matters.
 
I’m just surprised that today, in 2013, ANY new car gets mileage in the low 20s.

Honestly, my 2009 with 90k+ miles on it gets 22mpg with much wider tires than stock while really beating the crap out of it in the city, and 25mpg while loaded to the gills with cargo inside AND in the roof box AND 4 people in the car. I mean totally loaded, on the highway, running 80mph average from city to city. I don't think any SUV out there with similar cargo capacity and room for 6 people would be getting that kind of mileage. I've gotten as high as 31mpg pushing extra-legal highway speeds with a heavy load while managing drafts- quite a bit of it is in driving technique, and the rest of it is just understanding where expectations should be for a 6 passenger vehicle weighing 3500 pounds.
 
IMHO, MZR is still a reasonably fuel efficient engine. People act like it is ancient of ancient, but when compared to similar real world mpg's that equivalent engines from toyota, honda, hyundai, kia, ford, an the others are making, it is right there in the middle of the pack. Not bad at all on fuel economy for the size of vehicle it moves down the road.
 

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