Need Mazdaspeed3 Advice please

On the dp/rp issue, see my sig. You can run either a catted or catless (me) dp/rp 3 inch combo into the stock CBE. It will make serious power. I am catless and do not have boost creep and get excellent flow through with the Mazdaspeed CAI on the intake side and this setup on the exhaust side. But some do see creep unless they have some slight restriction below the downpipe either with the stock midpipe's cat, or with a high flow catted midpipe.

If you are in a state where you do not have to be tested, consider running catless. If you do have boost creep, you will probably put your catted midpipe back on and solve that. If you dislike the drone that the big dp/rp will introduce at around 2,500 rpm, you can cut your aftermarket rp and weld a good reso (see sig again) into the rp section. That will tame the drone and bring the total volume of the now much louder exhaust down a notch while still letting it be very healthy sounding compared to the stock system. And it will not measurably affect power. That big high flow straight through reso may provide just enough of a slight reduction in flow to explain why I do not see any boost creep.

Another thing. On the gen 2 car, you have a rinky dinky boost gauge that only goes to +1 bar, if I recall. That is only 14.7 psi. A downpipe and racepipe upgrade will raise your boost about 2 psi above stock due to better flow. You need a good aftermarket boost gauge. I mean you REALLY need a boost gauge that will read higher. I prefer a true vacuum/boost actuated fully manual gauge. Some kind of aftermarket boost gauge that goes up to about 25 psi the only way you will know what is going on and the only way you will be able to tell if you boost is creeping above 17-18 psi under load in the higher gears. Momentary spikes are not a problem and are to be expected on stock tune, provide they immediately settle to no more than 17-18and hold without rising further as rpm increases.

And yes, stick with the stock BPV to begin with. I can't make mine leak at now 37,000 hard miles. You will notice that it is a good bit louder after you upgrade your intake, and for gosh sakes, this engine hates VTA setups. Just don't do that. It will not make more power and will hurt performance and drivability. You are just farting already metered air to atmosphere when the engine has already calculated the fuel load and fired it into the engine through the injectors. Forgive me for saying it, but VTA is for "looky, lookey, look at me" ricers and I'm sure you are not interested in that profile. Spend your money on things that work and benefit your performance.

On intake models, any good SRI or CAI. Many of us are happy with the AEM or Mazdaspeed CAI (they are the same since Mazda rebrands the AEM). If either is available for the Gen 2 give them a strong consideration. They can be configured to run either CAI or SRI mode. They cost a bit more, but quality of construction, "get it right the first time" manufacturing, and adaptability are outstanding. Without starting a war on CAI v. SRI, I just prefer getting ambient air from the wheelwell rather than hot air from under the hood, so I mostly run in full CAI mode.

Oh, and guys making recommendations: Remember he has a Gen 2 car.
 
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On the dp/rp issue, see my sig. You can run either a catted or catless (me) dp/rp 3 inch combo into the stock CBE. It will make serious power. I am catless and do not have boost creep and get excellent flow through with the Mazdaspeed CAI on the intake side and this setup on the exhaust side. But some do see creep unless they have some slight restriction below the downpipe either with the stock midpipe's cat, or with a high flow catted midpipe.

If you are in a state where you do not have to be tested, consider running catless. If you do have boost creep, you will probably put your catted midpipe back on and solve that. If you dislike the drone that the big dp/rp will introduce at around 2,500 rpm, you can cut your aftermarket rp and weld a good reso (see sig again) into the rp section. That will tame the drone and bring the total volume of the now much louder exhaust down a notch while still letting it be very healthy sounding compared to the stock system. And it will not measurably affect power. That big high flow straight through reso may provide just enough of a slight reduction in flow to explain why I do not see any boost creep.

Another thing. On the gen 2 car, you have a rinky dinky boost gauge that only goes to +1 bar, if I recall. That is only 14.7 psi. A downpipe and racepipe upgrade will raise your boost about 2 psi above stock due to better flow. You need a good aftermarket boost gauge. I mean you REALLY need a boost gauge that will read higher. I prefer a true vacuum/boost actuated fully manual gauge. Some kind of aftermarket boost gauge that goes up to about 25 psi the only way you will know what is going on and the only way you will be able to tell if you boost is creeping above 17-18 psi under load in the higher gears. Momentary spikes are not a problem and are to be expected on stock tune, provide they immediately settle to no more than 17-18and hold without rising further as rpm increases.

And yes, stick with the stock BPV to begin with. I can't make mine leak at now 37,000 hard miles. You will notice that it is a good bit louder after you upgrade your intake, and for gosh sakes, this engine hates VTA setups. Just don't do that. It will not make more power and will hurt performance and drivability. You are just farting already metered air to atmosphere when the engine has already calculated the fuel load and fired it into the engine through the injectors. Forgive me for saying it, but VTA is for "looky, lookey, look at me" ricers and I'm sure you are not interested in that profile. Spend your money on things that work and benefit your performance.

On intake models, any good SRI or CAI. Many of us are happy with the AEM or Mazdaspeed CAI (they are the same since Mazda rebrands the AEM). If either is available for the Gen 2 give them a strong consideration. They can be configured to run either CAI or SRI mode. They cost a bit more, but quality of construction, "get it right the first time" manufacturing, and adaptability are outstanding. Without starting a war on CAI v. SRI, I just prefer getting ambient air from the wheelwell rather than hot air from under the hood, so I mostly run in full CAI mode.

Oh, and guys making recommendations: Remember he has a Gen 2 car.

im most likely going to get a UR catless dp and see how things are from there. i do live in NY so i do have to pass emissions so atleast one cat would be needed so ill leave the stock testpipe in there, i looked around on youtube and cars seem to sound nice with that kind of setup but i wanna hear it for my self in person. i really like the boost guage in the dash but i cant read accurate with it so i guesss i might get a AEM needle boost guage after abit, i dont wanna go out spending all this money right away.
as for the bov, this is my first car and i am 18, ive been dieing to have a car and i would always go to meets droppin my jaw at other cars but the smarter long run deicision would be to leave it in bpv. cobb sri's with stock bpv's make the bpv sound preety nice.
thanks for taking the time to write all of that, i appreciate the help from all you guys
 
Look into the Prosport gauge. Really cheap, but looks good and works well. That's what I currently have.

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danchick, since your local

we have a mazda club that meets every thursday at Douglaston Plaza in queens.

We are having our annual BBQ this saturday at Eisenhower Park

There are about 20 or so MS3's ranging from stock to fully built motors (380whp)

Everyones gone down a diff path, so you can hear almost any combination you want


FWIW I had the SSQV and ended up switching back to stock b/c it caused too much knock and driveability issues
 
If I were to do it all again, I would have saved the money on the boost gauge and gone with a Dashhawk that can show various data at the same time. Some people like to have a swinging needle boost gauge, but honestly, I rarely look at mine when I'm on the gas. This car is so quick that my eyes would much rather be on the road ahead than looking at a boost gauge. My Accessport shows me boost digitally and is much easier to read and so does a Dashhawk. Just my opinion. I may rip my boost guage out one day.

I recommended the Corksport intake only because for $239, you get an intake with the inlet pipe and you get your choice of colors for the filter, couplers and MAF anodizing. Pretty cool. I don't think you'll find anything else out there cheaper. What also nice is it has a dry flow filter, which I like better than the oiled filters. I wound up replacing my Cobb oil filter with an AEM dry flow.

What kind of inspection do you have in NY? Do you use a sniffer for emissions testing? Do they plug into the OBDII port? Do they take a look under the car for a cat? In NJ, if the car is OBDII, they plug in and look for emissions codes. If you car is showing any emissions related codes, they will fail you. Older cars still get a sniffer test. However, the still shove the "mirror on a stick" under the car to look for a cat, which is why I'm going to eventually put my stock midpipe with cat back in. Right now, I'm running the stock dp, test pipe and stock CBE. If you buy a new car in Jersey, you don't have to get it inspected until 4 years later, so I won't have to get mine inspected until June of 2012. I just bought a used Corksport DP, which doesn't have a cat, so I'm going to run that with my stock midpipe and what I'm going to do with the CBE has yet to be determined (I want to hear what it sounds like first). If I do get a CBE, it'll be the UR CBE, but a CBE is a lot of money just for a sound upgrade. It's only going to add 5whp or so. The DP will add about 20-25whp and costs half as much. If I were you, I'd get the catless DP and leave the stock midpipe in. This way they can see it under the car. If they happen to do a visual and see you have a straight pipe in there, they'll start to wonder because you can't see the cat on the DP without jacking the car up and getting under there. It is a federal crime to tamper with emissions equipment. Alot of us do it, but if you get caught by the right person, it's a big time fine, so I'd at least stay semi-green and keep 1 cat and the one in the midpipe is the one I'd keep.

I would wait on the CBE and if you really have $600 burning a hole in your pocket, upgrade your intercooler with a new top mount.
 
When I start going down the exhaust mod path I will probably get a catted DP and a cat-less TP for the simple reason that if the catted DP + cat-less TP doesn't pass emissions it's a heck of a lot easier (from what I've learned) to swap a test pipe back in than a down pipe. Perhaps this is overly paranoid, but it's what I would do.
 
high flow cats do pass emissions, you just need to be 100% certain that it has fully warmed up
 
^^ There you go. 8.5MS3 knows his s*** too.

Also, +1 to the Dashhawk, does all the gauges you could ever want, reads and clears engine codes, logs engine data, and can be programmed to flashing warnings for anything you want (over boost, low fuel pressure, coolant temperature, etc).
 
Look into the Prosport gauge. Really cheap, but looks good and works well. That's what I currently have.

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do the prosport guages fit on the 2010 ms3?

danchick, since your local

we have a mazda club that meets every thursday at Douglaston Plaza in queens.

We are having our annual BBQ this saturday at Eisenhower Park

There are about 20 or so MS3's ranging from stock to fully built motors (380whp)

Everyones gone down a diff path, so you can hear almost any combination you want


FWIW I had the SSQV and ended up switching back to stock b/c it caused too much knock and driveability issues

shitt id without a doubt love to bring my stock babie there but i have my friends going away party that day

If I were to do it all again, I would have saved the money on the boost gauge and gone with a Dashhawk that can show various data at the same time. Some people like to have a swinging needle boost gauge, but honestly, I rarely look at mine when I'm on the gas. This car is so quick that my eyes would much rather be on the road ahead than looking at a boost gauge. My Accessport shows me boost digitally and is much easier to read and so does a Dashhawk. Just my opinion. I may rip my boost guage out one day.

I recommended the Corksport intake only because for $239, you get an intake with the inlet pipe and you get your choice of colors for the filter, couplers and MAF anodizing. Pretty cool. I don't think you'll find anything else out there cheaper. What also nice is it has a dry flow filter, which I like better than the oiled filters. I wound up replacing my Cobb oil filter with an AEM dry flow.

What kind of inspection do you have in NY? Do you use a sniffer for emissions testing? Do they plug into the OBDII port? Do they take a look under the car for a cat? In NJ, if the car is OBDII, they plug in and look for emissions codes. If you car is showing any emissions related codes, they will fail you. Older cars still get a sniffer test. However, the still shove the "mirror on a stick" under the car to look for a cat, which is why I'm going to eventually put my stock midpipe with cat back in. Right now, I'm running the stock dp, test pipe and stock CBE. If you buy a new car in Jersey, you don't have to get it inspected until 4 years later, so I won't have to get mine inspected until June of 2012. I just bought a used Corksport DP, which doesn't have a cat, so I'm going to run that with my stock midpipe and what I'm going to do with the CBE has yet to be determined (I want to hear what it sounds like first). If I do get a CBE, it'll be the UR CBE, but a CBE is a lot of money just for a sound upgrade. It's only going to add 5whp or so. The DP will add about 20-25whp and costs half as much. If I were you, I'd get the catless DP and leave the stock midpipe in. This way they can see it under the car. If they happen to do a visual and see you have a straight pipe in there, they'll start to wonder because you can't see the cat on the DP without jacking the car up and getting under there. It is a federal crime to tamper with emissions equipment. Alot of us do it, but if you get caught by the right person, it's a big time fine, so I'd at least stay semi-green and keep 1 cat and the one in the midpipe is the one I'd keep.

I would wait on the CBE and if you really have $600 burning a hole in your pocket, upgrade your intercooler with a new top mount.

i will definitely look into the corksport sri with the tip already, as oppose to paying 175 for a cobb sria nd then 165 for a cobb tip, save 100$ there.
In NY they do the ODBII test and also inspect for a cat which would be in the testpipe.
 
Yeah, a cup pod would be fine. Just mount it on your steering column. If you don't want to drill, just use a healthy amount of 3M molding tape (double sided)
 
i'm looking to purchase a turbo inlet. i currently have the Mazdaspeed CAI. Anyone have this combo and would you recommend?
 
i'm looking to purchase a turbo inlet. i currently have the Mazdaspeed CAI. Anyone have this combo and would you recommend?

Cobb, the nice thick silicone tubing blocks out heat very effectively and it is quite a bit smoother internally than the welded ones I've seen. The smoothness and nice gradual transitions are better for air flow.

Edit: I have this combo and I really like.
 

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