ne body have timeslips or dyno charts for johnny boys msp???

[mspeed101]

lol u calling me out??? its all good man just wait a couple more weeks, and i will post even bigger numbers!!!!! lot of stuff on the way. THANKS JEFF!!! when i get home i will take a pic of the dyno sheet i dont have a scanner. but a 13.55@102 is telling u the power is there.

Are you running an open midpipe? Also you were using drag radials right?

 

[JONBOY688]

dyno charts

no open dp just 3 inch no cat from apex1 with stock cat back. and yes i was on 225-50-15 bfg radials which i couldnt get to hook.i 60ft 2.25 on street tires, and my best on the drag radials was 2.19 but i needed to heat them up more. sorry about the pics guys i dont have a scanner.

 

[jred321]

how does this extra injectors thing work exactly? is ther another place for the injectors to go or u need something else to do that?

just do some research before deciding injectors before the tb is the way to go

 

[JONBOY688]

why do u think bigger injectors are the way to go besides extra ones?

 

[orangezoom]

better way to tune

 

[Speqz]

nice numbers jonboy....i have a new found respect for the msp....226 whp is really good sry i doubted it i was just tryin to get the facts str8...

 

[Speqz]

hey...do u get hesitation with ur injen cai?? ive heard stories or that may have just been with the sri...any1 else free to answer as well

im tryin to decide on what car to get depending on the aftermarket performance....msp or GTI 20ae

 

[jred321]

why do u think bigger injectors are the way to go besides extra ones?

http://www.supras.com/~riemer/sonictech/fuel_injectors/RCtech.html (read towards the bottom)

ATOMIZATION High atomizing injectors are usually used in Throttle body applications only, and have a rather wide spray pattern. A wide, finely atomized pattern is wonderful for emissions and economy but can cause problems in higher performance engines. At low RPMs, with a low air flow rate, the slow moving finely atomized fuel has enough time to get past the valve and create a close to stoichiometric mixture. (Air/Fuel mixture of 14.70 - Chemically ideal) As RPMs increase this mass can't keep up, with valve open time, and many of the fuel droplets impinge the port wall and condense. Atomized fuel can only travel at port "air speed" and in large quantities it can actually displace air in the port. With a highly atomized mix in the port, at intake valve opening, the lighter droplets of fuel will be partly blown back up the port. This is caused by the residual exhaust pressure still resident in the combustion chamber. Some of this reverted mixture will adhere to port walls and condense. This puddling fuel may find its way home, on the next intake cycle, but it will cause cycle-to-cycle air/fuel ratio variances. The higher inertia of the more condensed fuel will carry it to its target. "The liquid film that wets the walls represents a capacitance that greatly reduces the transient response of the engine." (SAE 950506) This problem is compounded in Gang fire and Semi-gang fire systems, but is not as troublesome in sequential fire systems. Gang fire systems fire all injectors, every rotation, at the same time, discharging half of the required fuel at each event. Semi-gang fire systems fire groups of injectors in the same fashion, half-and-half, each rotation. Sequential systems fire each injector at a pre-determined time and discharge all required fuel in one event, prior to intake valve opening. In either of the gang fire systems there is no timing-of-event technology in operation, and as you can see it's a rather simple system. NOTE: 7M-GTE fuel systems are semi-gang fire, as is the ignition system, and the injectors are fired in the same order, 1&6-5&2-3&4, as the spark plugs. 2JZ/GTE systems are true sequential operations, 6 coils, 6 injectors, and 12 separate events---- A state of the art well formatted system.

- from Russ Collins, the RC in RC engineering
corky bell says something similar (but not as technical) in maximum boost
i've done some reading on it, i feel like it's the easy way out, not the right way. others may think it's the way to go, i'm just saying do some research beforehand and find out for yourself which is right for you.