my thoughts on the mam tube mani

[MSPHAWAII]

well today i installed the mani it took about 6hrs . let me just start off by saying these are my views. of this part no one else's .. so yeah the install was well crazy and for me .i have worked on cars for about 12 yrs so i am not new to it lol. and first off the mani is a nice peice of work but made very tight . you have to supply your own studs to mount the turbo to the mani .you have to shorten up some of the stock bolts to mout the mani to the eng. i think for the price all hard wear should be included lol i mean i think most of the time used up was for mounting the bolts and putting in the studs .. just my 2 cents but i think mam should rethink the setup or inculed all hardwear for the the price..


i give this a 8 on the hard scale just becuase i have fat fingers lol ...

 

[mspdfreak]

Pics?

 

[CasopoliS]

A good honest review.
Thank you for your thoughts. I know it is really expensive because the materials and the amount of time that goes into each one of these.... turbo studs would be nice tho.

 

[Saban]

.. just my 2 cents but i think mam should rethink the setup or inculed all hardwear for the the price..

Or they could at least give you an option at the time of purchase to get the required hardware (Like **********.com)

 

[II-Savy]

Oh man....if I were you I would change some of the wording in your review. It sounds honest and calm but if the mods even SMELL you saying anything wrong about any vendor ......even KINDA they will be all over you.(eek2) I have read many posts and threads about products....


The mani looks sick in the pic on the site. Crazy polish, all twisted tubes. Wow. Sick looking piece.

 

[MsP_DeViL]

Or they could at least give you an option at the time of purchase to get the required hardware (Like **********.com)

Please dont compare the 2 shops , that dude from Street is a SPED! I called him and he can barly form sentences I will never do business with them ever , Thank god for mam . Now I hope I get my intercooler soon waiting is not my strong suite lol , but other than the wait for my FMIC I cant say anything bad about MAM

 

[vodapas77]

How was your fitment with the GHL DP and Perrin FMIC. Any issues that required adjustment or refitting? How many of the factory bolts did you have to shorten and how much longer/shorter of studs did you need to mount the turbo?

 

[MSPHAWAII]

How was your fitment with the GHL DP and Perrin FMIC. Any issues that required adjustment or refitting? How many of the factory bolts did you have to shorten and how much longer/shorter of studs did you need to mount the turbo?

ok here is the deal . fitment with the ghl is fine no problems there. as for the perrin fmic with the size of the intercooler pipeing it is a very and i say very tight fit . as for the mount bolts for the mani i had to shorten up two of them . the one in the middle i took down 1/4 in and the one on the far left top i had to take down half way .as for the turbo to mani studs i had to stud two of the holes becuase there is no way of putting a nut on the top for a bolt. the wholes are way to close to the runners . but like i said if it came with all the hardwear it would be a great mani but for the price and the wait it kind of made me mad haveing to mod all of the stock stuff. i mean they say its a direct replacement and it is as far and where the turbo sits but as far as mounting it hmm i dont think it is ... o yeah one more thing the o2wireing is to short so i will have to go back in and rewire it to make it longer if you dont it will sit rite on the mani lol well hope this helps...

and the top end is sick now i love the mani very much i do think it is a great product and i am happy that mam makes it just wish they gave you everything for the price..

 

[jurgs01]

I would have given you some advice on the install. There is one bolt from the mani-turbo that is easier with a stud, and two bolts on the mounting the mani I also used shorter than the stock bolts. I don't know why you would re-use those nasty stock bolts? They are rusty and weak. I went to the hardware store and bought all SS bolts for this. I should have written the sizes down.

 

[MSPHAWAII]

I would have given you some advice on the install. There is one bolt from the mani-turbo that is easier with a stud, and two bolts on the mounting the mani I also used shorter than the stock bolts. I don't know why you would re-use those nasty stock bolts? They are rusty and weak. I went to the hardware store and bought all SS bolts for this. I should have written the sizes down.

well mine where not rusty lol but i am sure they are weak but its just the point of haveing to use the stuff and not getting new stuff from mam for the price that is all i was saying about it . dont get me wrong i love the mani just think more hardware lol with it ...

 

[Mental Addiction]

I'm glad to hear you got it running. Right now we are putting together hardware kits for the MSP manifold. In the past we did not because our flange suppliers where very slow. We used 2 suppliers and both had different bolt sizes. We now have 40+ flanges instock and will be including new studs and nuts in every manifold. It's my personal mission to make the install's less of a headache when I can.

The manifold is a very tight fit.

 

[vodapas77]

Well,

So far my install is going pretty well. We'll see how it all finishes up this week. All I can say is I'm glad I waited to do my GHL DP, iON FMIC, front motor mount, and P5 radiator swap until I got the mani. Makes everything a lot more simple when you;ve got all of that cleared out.

BTW can anyone further simplify my life and provide me with the torque specs. for bolting the mani. to the head? Stripping out the threads or breaking a bolt would sure as hell make this job a lot more of an ordeal than I want. As Justin says, I usually torque until my butt-hole puckers. But, I'm thinking a little more finesse will be required for this task. lol.

Oh and Beau I'll give ya a call tomorrow about that O2 sensor bung.

 

[Padre]

BTW can anyone further simplify my life and provide me with the torque specs. for bolting the mani. to the head? Stripping out the threads or breaking a bolt would sure as hell make this job a lot more of an ordeal than I want. As Justin says, I usually torque until my butt-hole puckers. But, I'm thinking a little more finesse will be required for this task. lol.

Exhaust manifold torque specs: 14-16 ft-lbf

 

[Pirana]

any more pics of your car, Hawaii?

 

[jurgs01]

Exhaust manifold torque specs: 14-16 ft-lbf

Also, torque these down evenly at about 5 ft-lb increments. It will help prevent leaking in the end.

 

[goku4658]

good news about the hardware, beau.

keep up the quality work and customer service!! i hope to buy from you in the near future!

 

[Rainman]

I can hardly wait to get mine installed. I'll be running over to the shop the second that it arrives!

R

 

[jurgs01]

Good call Rich. If you get SS bolt they expand and contract a bit more with the heat, so it is good to do this.

 

[vodapas77]

Good tips guys. I am replacing the factory hardware with stainless so i'll definitely need to do the heat cycling. Thanks.