my kit is ALMOST done...

[accuser]

remeber... this is my first endeavour with boost... N/A is so much easier... even motor swaps...

well... i finally got to start installing my kit...

i definately didn't hit my deadline.
-sadly enough-

turned out to be a whole lot more cutsom then i though.

the manifold / downpipe / wastegate / turbo didn't match up 100% so figuring out the best way to fit it was a b****. but that turned out ok.

the biggest pain in the ass was the intercooler piping...

first i'm using a starion intercooler (this is a peice together kit... i spent about 1800...)
second... it's the MAM first gen hard pipe kit... which involved cutting some sheet metal. well... my dumb ass thinking i was slick... i was sawwing up the sheet metal with the radiator on the car... and i nicked it...

so in preperation to get my car running tonight, i went to the dealer and paid TOP DOLLAR (and i mean top dollar) for a radiator (that's why my kit cost 1800 or else it would have cost me 1500.) do the math.

ok so i installed the new radiator and i wireup all the electronics (ie. boost controller, gauges.) run all the vaccum. (waistegate, bpv, boost controller)

i had my friend come to my house and finish the welding for the oilpan (i'm not a good welder)

TWO MORE BOLTS TO GO!!!! all i had to do was tighten two bolts on the exhaust manifold and i would be tunning this very second...

I BROKE A FREAKIN BOLT!!!! the b**** stayed in the head... from the way it looks i should be able to grab the bolt with a vice grip and twist it out... but i'm pissed off man...

well... here are some pics from yesterday... before all the vaccum hoses were run.

http://www.bexiga.net/pics-of-car/DSCF0012.JPG
http://www.bexiga.net/pics-of-car/DSCF0013.JPG
http://www.bexiga.net/pics-of-car/DSCF0014.JPG
http://www.bexiga.net/pics-of-car/DSCF0015.JPG
http://www.bexiga.net/pics-of-car/DSCF0016.JPG
http://www.bexiga.net/pics-of-car/DSCF0017.JPG

 

[KzA]

wow wierd sport for the ECU..keep working man love to see how itd work out

 

[brealmp3]

good luck, hope it works out

 

[accuser]

yeah man... i was so suped up.. had all the intake piping on nice and snug... now i gotta take it all off again...

*shrug*

at least i don't have to do any more electrick work.

-pedro

good luck, hope it works out

 

[Brian MP5T]

http://www.bexiga.net/pics-of-car/DSCF0012.JPG

The Attachment on the top of the Wastegete...What do you plan to hook it to?

 

[Brian MP5T]

What are you hooking the Turbo Water Jacket up to?

 

[trbomp5]

a better spot for your Begi is in the pic below. Looks almost stock in my pic. Also if you like the fuel pressure gauge in the pic, click on my link in my sig.

 

[trbomp5]

What are you hooking the Turbo Water Jacket up to?

Check out Brians setup on his website, its pretty damn slick

 

[accuser]

the attatchment on the top of the wastegate goes to the boost controller... their is another attatchment on the side of the wastegate that is for vaccum.

the water jacket... i'm not going to use it... i'm not going to run high amounts of boost... if i decide to do so, then i will use the water jacket, but for now...

ce la vide.

yeah i noticed if i put the rrfpr on the passenger side it looks stock... but i think it looks beefy as hell where i have it... matches up with the wastegate...

by the way, how much is your fuel pressure kit? i'm in jersey... how soon would i get it? hehehe... i'm pressed for time.

-pedro

 

[accuser]

turbo mp5... you custom made your kit as well... any problems when you cranked it ? anything i should be aware of?

-pedro

Check out Brians setup on his website, its pretty damn slick

 

[trbomp5]

the water jacket... i'm not going to use it... i'm not going to run high amounts of boost... if i decide to do so, then i will use the water jacket, but for now...


by the way, how much is your fuel pressure kit? i'm in jersey... how soon would i get it? hehehe... i'm pressed for time.

-pedro

I dont know if I'd not use the water jacket. For something as simple as a couple feet of hose, why not? I just came out of the block, to the turbo, and back to the TB. Turbos get hot as hell, and running more or less boost doesnt really matter. That would only come into play with intercooler or not. Your turbo should be roughly the same Temp regardless of boost give or take a little. Yes i know it will go up with the boost, thats why deisels all worry about EGT when they turn up the boost, but i started out at 4 psi, and now I'm at almost 9-10. Havent really noticed all that much diff in temp of the exhaust. You are not boosting all the time. I'd say only about 20% of the time you drive normally are you in boost.

The fuel kit could be to you by wed-thurs. I'm not that far from you. And it would be $45 shipped and woould go out monday with tracking and insurance via fedex.

 

[accuser]

where off the block did you get the coolat from... and where did you return it too?

-pedro

I dont know if I'd not use the water jacket. For something as simple as a couple feet of hose, why not? I just came out of the block, to the turbo, and back to the TB. Turbos get hot as hell, and running more or less boost doesnt really matter. That would only come into play with intercooler or not. Your turbo should be roughly the same Temp regardless of boost give or take a little. Yes i know it will go up with the boost, thats why deisels all worry about EGT when they turn up the boost, but i started out at 4 psi, and now I'm at almost 9-10. Havent really noticed all that much diff in temp of the exhaust. You are not boosting all the time. I'd say only about 20% of the time you drive normally are you in boost.

The fuel kit could be to you by wed-thurs. I'm not that far from you. And it would be $45 shipped and woould go out monday with tracking and insurance via fedex.

 

[trbomp5]

turbo mp5... you custom made your kit as well... any problems when you cranked it ? anything i should be aware of?

-pedro

Brian made his too, so I'd ask him too.

Some points to watch for.....

Check everything over and then check it 10 more times. Make sure your wastegate works and moves (i had everything on the car, and used an air reg hooked to my compressor to make sure it opened at the stock DSM's 6 psi.

I was leary of the FM clamp working so i did the same thing with it, gave it air and checked it with a volt ohm meter.

Its really not all that scary the first time i started it. I had planned and reasearched this for about 6 mos while may car was getting rebuilt (i bough ti totaled) then spent my time making everything and pressure testing everything, i would have my car down for a few days to test fir stuff, then back on the stock stuff went. When i was finally ready to do it, I borrowed a friends extra car (WS6, rough, 'eh?) then spent about 3 weeks doing the final install. My kit was definatly not a bolt on kit. I had to fab and change a lot of stuff. Which is what I planned on. When the time came to start it, I clenched my teeth, closed my eyes, and turned the key. Started right up. NO CEL! I was happy. All my gauges were working, i checked for leaks, then i slowly pressed the gas revving it a little. Put it in drive and went for its maiden trip. I pulled out on to the main road, punched it slowly to make sure that the boost would come up, watched the A/F gauge to make sure i had the Begi set right and that the VC was working, then kind of hit it good. DAMN. what a difference! the tires broke free and i was like s***, this is cool.

Now for the bad part. About this time is when it started smoking like a F'ing crazy. Thought it was the turbo blown. It was rebuilt, but you never know. To make a long story short after about 2 weeks of trying to get some help on why it smoked, a guy at dallas turbo asked me to describe everything about my setup. After he looked it over, he said i needed a bigger drain for the turbo. I had a 3/8"ID hose down to the pan. Well the prob was the bulkhead fitting was only 1/8" NPT, and was piching it off and causing the oil to get shoved out the seals into the exhasut and intake. I got out the plasma, made a new flange for the pan, and now its 1/2" hose and 1/2" NPT fittings on both ends. No smoke at all. Well after I got out all the oil from my intercooler.

 

[trbomp5]

where off the block did you get the coolat from... and where did you return it too?

-pedro

Look at the upper radiator hose. follow it to the block. you'll see a 3/8" or so hose coming up out of that aluminum block. that goes to the TB. remove that and then just go from there to the turbo and back to that hose. Very easy.

I'd take some pics for you but the dig is down right now. The dog chewed up the memory card.

 

[accuser]

interesting... what did you do about the egr pipe? i'm probably just going to leave it open... but that will throw a cel...

##edit##
another question... what did you do about the temperature sensor that (on the stock intake) is next to the maf?
##edit##
man i had to fab so much s***... (puke) it's been ugly on the fabrication side... just trying to get the ic piping to work... i was cutting pipes, clamping them up... but as you see everything seems ok...

just gotta put my bumper back on... and double check the oil pan for leaks... (and of coarse the broken bolt...) i'm at work right now... but hoping that i can bounce early to get a head start...

i want to get her running tonight so i'm not out of a car this week as well.

-pedro

 

[trbomp5]

interesting... what did you do about the egr pipe? i'm probably just going to leave it open... but that will throw a cel...

I went to napa and got a plug, it was a 22mil straight thread i believe, use 2 washers (it comes with one) and tighten it down. And yes i did get a CEL for that about a week later. So i drilled a hole and tapped it out to 1/8" npt. Then i ran a small 1/8" ID hose from it to the intake manifold. Seems to work so far! been 2 mos and no CEL.

You absolutely cannot leave it open. Think about it, when it opens, you'll have the worlds worst vacuum leak, car will probably die. And if your into boost and it opens you'll be loosing metered air and it will then run rich as hell, and probably bog, sputter, die.

 

[trbomp5]

another question... what did you do about the temperature sensor that (on the stock intake) is next to the maf?

Shouldnt have to do anything with it. I didnt. I have no problems with it.

*edit*
sorry brain fart. Didnt realize what you were asking about. I have it in a hole I drilled through the inner fender

 

[accuser]

isn't it just for cold starts? i guess i'll just close it up untill i get a chance to pikc up some more parts... so your saying i should just run it to the intake manifold...

man i can't wait to get my car started... if their are no problems with that freakin bolt... i should have it running today!!!!

-pedro

I went to napa and got a plug, it was a 22mil straight thread i believe, use 2 washers (it comes with one) and tighten it down. And yes i did get a CEL for that about a week later. So i drilled a hole and tapped it out to 1/8" npt. Then i ran a small 1/8" ID hose from it to the intake manifold. Seems to work so far! been 2 mos and no CEL.

You absolutely cannot leave it open. Think about it, when it opens, you'll have the worlds worst vacuum leak, car will probably die. And if your into boost and it opens you'll be loosing metered air and it will then run rich as hell, and probably bog, sputter, die.

 

[Brian MP5T]

the attatchment on the top of the wastegate goes to the boost controller... their is another attatchment on the side of the wastegate that is for vaccum.-pedro

Are you sure?

The one on top is usually never used. The wastegate is opened by pressure pushing from the bottom one against a diaphram that is held down by a spring (In that large Bell).

The boost controller simply goes in the line that would come from your intake side throught the controller and into the wastegate. Doing anything else might stop the wasteget from oppening at all and that my friend will cause you to destroy your car the first time you go to WOT.

I may be incorrect because I do not know what boost controller you are using, but I'm 99% sure that you might have to do some more reading in the "Wastegate Area"

Dude!

 

[Brian MP5T]

the water jacket... i'm not going to use it... i'm not going to run high amounts of boost... if i decide to do so, then i will use the water jacket, but for now...


-pedro

Turbos that come with a water jacket are designed to be used only with water flowing through them. Turbos without have a larger ammount of oil flowing across the berring to cool and lubricate. You have a water cooled turbo...it has to be cooled by water, no questions about it. It's not to reduce intake temp or what ever...it's only there to prevent berring corking, (Too Much Heat). If you try to use it without, it will work well but will fail much faster than if it were hooked up.