My impression of gen 2 versus gen 1 after a drive

Robotazky

Lover of 5's
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2009 Mazda5 GT
Back in the spring of '08 I test drove several '08 MS3s before I finally settled on an '08 Civic Si coupe. I ended up trading the Civic for an '09 Accord coupe. I then traded the Accord for an '09 Mazda5 GT and gave it to my fiancee.

At the time that I was driving MS3s, they felt rough to me. Quick, but sort of cheap with rattling, a weird shifter with too long of a throw, a grossly unsettled suspension, generic steering, and outdated dash. Overall, while the car was faster in a straight line, there was no question that a really good driver could smoke an MS3 in a Civic Si with tires. Yes, I'm sure many will argue against that, but that's what I believe. The Civic Si got the nod on steering, suspension composure, overall fit and finish, and just "tightness".

Today I test drove a new '10 MS3. All I can say is that this is what the MS3 wanted to be all along. It is now a vastly better car than the Si, hands down. I like that because I always believed that the MS3 had the potential with more focus on making a SOLID car. This thing is seriously solid.

The steering is just awesome. I love it. It dramatically changes the feel of the car. The shifter, regardless of what anyone says, works way better and feels far more connected to the driver. The shifter is not as sloppy as it was. The suspension, I just cannot say enough for how solid and composed it felt. The interior is light years beyond what it was. There was not a single rattle anywhere, yet the car felt stiffer, like it would rattle worse.

Overall, I feel like the MS3 is finally what it can be. Composure and tightness for a performance car is redefined for this price segment. The bar is a lot higher now and the MS3 owns it. I'm seriously looking at getting one. Good job Mazda. You nailed it.
 
first time i drove the 2010 MS3 and i knew that it was the right car from me. i will be picking up mine tomorrow in VRM and first mode i will do will be the Jbarone shifter plate.
 
Yeah i had an 08 civic si sedan, but I traded it for my 09 speed3..and I highly doubt a civic will smoke my car, it might hang for alittle bit and thats it. Glad to see you might consider buying something with some torque....and no need to smile because your 2010 will do it for ya! LOL!!!
 
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I love the '10 MS3 but have to sell it already for a few reasons. Didnt even make it past 1500 miles yet... :(
 
Yeah i had an 08 civic si sedan, but I traded it for my 09 speed3..and I highly doubt a civic will smoke my car, it might hang for alittle bit and thats it. Glad to see you might consider buying something with some torque....and no need to smile because your 2010 will do it for ya! LOL!!!

You cannot throw the gen 1 MS3 around twisty roads like you can the Civic Si. The MS3 pushes too hard. When the Civic starts to push you can just whip it hard to the inside and punch it and the back end just ends up pointed out of the corner. I got to know the Civic very well. It's very hard to drive the gen 1 MS3 at its limit on really curvy unsettling roads, which is where the Civic really shines. Now, if we're talking about city streets and open highways, then obviously the MS3 gets the nod.

That said, I think that an average driver could do better in an MS3 on curvy roads because they cannot corner using everything the cars have. I autox-ed GTIs for 15 years. I'm telling you, you can get more on the twisties out of a stock Civic Si if you know how to throw it around. I tried to show my fiancee what it could do once and scared her so badly sliding around corners that she cried. I'm still in the doghouse. I thought she'd like it. I was wrong.
 
Did you bite off more than you can chew?

No. I am in the military and stationed in Korea. I took a vacation back to Cali, and bought it knowing that I was about to get out of the army in about 6 months from the date that I bought it. I now am going to be staying here in Korea teaching english. So I am in no need for a car.
 
No. I am in the military and stationed in Korea. I took a vacation back to Cali, and bought it knowing that I was about to get out of the army in about 6 months from the date that I bought it. I now am going to be staying here in Korea teaching english. So I am in no need for a car.

Ah, then no need to feel bad for you, other than you don't get to keep such a cool car. I'm sure they have something like it over there. Good luck with the job.
 

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