MSP/Spec-v - KEEP IT BRIEF!!!!

[Daemos]

man this thread is long dead...but to make a short story simple.

For the price of a Spec V w/o options, there is NOTHING that can touch it for the price, that's 20K CANADIAN.

with options stock for stock Spec V vs MSP would be drivers race both autox + 1/4 mile, there are so many factors to it, but it basically comes down to driver, and how much you know your car.

But basically, for the price, if you are in the US phone motorex and buy a used R32 GTS.

IF you are in canada, wait til next aug, buy a used 1989 R32 Skyline GTR for about 20K Canadian direct from japan + shipping + legalization fees (remember 15 year old cars in Canada don't have to pass emissions, or go through conversions to be insured, so you can buy directly from japan) Both cars will whoop the s*** outta a MSP or Spec V any day. Personally that's most likely the route I'm gonna be taking 2-3 years from now, when my Spec V becomes nothing more than a winter beater. I'm either gonna be in a RWD or a AWD summer project car.

This debate is long dead, we each bought our cars for diffrent reasons. This debate is purely subjective. Personally, don't hold this against me, but I see no future in performance with lowly FWD cars, no matter how you look at it, they're both hyped up versions of econocars, that are STILL FWD, with a very limited aftermarket.

 

[mazdaspeedpower]

I agree about the Spec-v and MSP being a drivers race. I'm decent at shifting in race type situations(street race off lights), but I'm not the best. I have a Stock MSP, and raced two diff. Spec-v's at the same time. One beat me, the other lost to me, not any big gaps, like a nose win, and a nose and a half loss. So it really is a race of who knows how to shift the best. The sixth gear does hurt the SPec-v, because the rest of the gears are slightly shorter than the MSP, but hey, whatever, both decent cars, scares me to think of a Spec-V with a turbo though, but it will never happen, atleast not OEM,

 

[MazdaspeedHolla]

I used to have a 2002 Spec V. And honestly...I would take my 03.5 MSP over it ANY day. The handling is absolutely sick in the MSP. I raced a Spec tonite, owned by one of my buddies, he is claiming that he has 220 hp right now, and I still beat it. He even said that he drove his other buddy's MSP and he even says that it is faster than the spec. 1st gear in the 02 Spec was VERY short, and I mean it pulls in 6th, but I think the MSP pulls more. It does depend on the driver and how he shifts and how he knows his car and well, how good he is. But like I said, i will take the MSP ANY DAY over the Spec. I don't miss my old Spec at all, anymore I think...Spec who, what, huh?

 

[tritonheat1]

What do you think of a Driver's Race of!!! 02 5-speed SE-R vs. 02 SpecV? which one would be quicker, I mean cause my Sister/Brother-in-law owns a 02 Aztec Red 5-speed SE-R (AEM CAI, Stillen Exhaust, 2" lowering Sprint springs, and have tooken out a SpecV with identical mods by a Car lengh, and also a Type-S by half car lengh with minor mods also AEM and Greddy Cat-back.???

 

[Nismosis]

I've heard of some SE-Rs being able to take Spec-Vs but I'm thinking it's all driver. I've raced pleanty of non-Specs and I've dusted them all. I'm really eager to race an MSP and see how it turns out.

 

[Daemos]

Again, it always comes down to prefrence.

I wouldn't of ever chosen a MSP because, I wanted a sunroof, side impact airbags, and a larger NA engine, I never plan to mod this car, since I'm gonna have a project car lined up soon.

IT handles VERY well, and I would put it on par with the MSP, the only fault with the Spec V, is it does take much more time to learn the limits than it would with a MSP.

But I wouldn't trade my spec for an MSP. Again both are great cars.

Remember you guys are talking about STREET races, there are so many factors to street racing, and R/T is REALLY important, so is traction. I've seen cars with timeslips of 12.2s lose to cars with timeslips in the low 13s.

 

[Daemos]

What do you think of a Driver's Race of!!! 02 5-speed SE-R vs. 02 SpecV? which one would be quicker, I mean cause my Sister/Brother-in-law owns a 02 Aztec Red 5-speed SE-R (AEM CAI, Stillen Exhaust, 2" lowering Sprint springs, and have tooken out a SpecV with identical mods by a Car lengh, and also a Type-S by half car lengh with minor mods also AEM and Greddy Cat-back.???

hmm...stock for stock, I think the 5-speed might be faster...

reasons: Lighter, softer suspension allows for better launches on the street, smaller lighter rims, 5-speed vs 6-speed...

 

[mountjonas]

i don't know if it's been covered yet, but have any of you seen the "refreshed" sentra ser/spec v? ugh. they put the new split grill action on the front and somehow reshaped the headlights to look... retarded. it's in the new car and driver. i think the current ser looks more aggressive. if this has been discussed, i apologize. i'm too lazy to read through all 4 pages of this thread.

 

[mikeyb]

I have a 03 SE-R with an Auto because I hate to shift in traffic. The reason I bought the SE-R is that I wanted a sunroof and a auto which the MSP doesn't have. Also the MSP wasn't available Nov 02 when my 95 Accord crapped out on me so I needed a car right away. I like the power my SE-R puts out and I also like the handling of it. The 2 only things I hate are the turining radius and the sucky gas mileage.

My 03 P5 handles just like the SE-R if not better.

 

[tritonheat1]

hmm...stock for stock, I think the 5-speed might be faster...

reasons: Lighter, softer suspension allows for better launches on the street, smaller lighter rims, 5-speed vs 6-speed...

i totally agree that the 5-speed is faster, bc my friend owns a SpecV with Injen CAI, bolt on exhaust, 2" eibach springs and Normal driver. My Sister/Brother-in-law owns a 02 Aztec Red 5-speed SE-R with AEM CAI, Stillen exhaust, and 2" Sprint Springs, along with 2 12 JLAudio's in the Trunk and i can take him by 1car lengh up to 90. From the Start is a B(*&H though cause anything over 2000Rpms Nothing but Wheelspin and bouncing off the rev-limiter, I have to launch at 1500even and then traction comes. This freakin car is Torquey as he** man, i love the sound of CVTC at 5100rpms and it sounds mean. Even my friend with a 00 SI say's it sounds agressive, "louder than his and he has Header, CAI, exhaust etc... If you're wondering also? i can take his SI by 1-and 1/2cars. The 5-speed is a whole lot different than driving the SpecV!!!! also i think i can get the SE-R in the 14.9-15.0 flat, bc my friend in the SpecV took his car to Fomoso raceway in bakersfield and ran 15.2@90mph twice. Then kicked all the imports out and let the Muscle cars run'em all night. LOL i'm for reals though

 

[mspeed2]

I have a msp with no problem's had that hesition problem but now it's gone thank's to K&N drop in filter don't ask how I was thinking of buying a spec-v but glad I didn't I love turbo I smoke'em all day.

 

[mspeed2]

the msp is a better car hands down

 

[mikeyb]

the msp is a better car hands down

I agree with you that the MSP is a better handling car then the SE-R. All SE-R owners have to do is install aftermarket or NISMO suspension and the SE-R would handle like a MSP.

 

[mspeed2]

IT WOULD BE NICER CAR WITH A T28 TURBO 5-SPEED WITH TALLER GEARS AND A BETTER SUSPENSION