MSP RacingHarts weigh...

[cjstringer]

MSP Pro-
I've been told you can't run the Hoosiers unless you have 2deg or more camber, so that won't work on the proteges in stock setup. The Kuhmos are nice, but I've been told 225's won't fit, and if they do, look for something in a 40 or smaller profile as the 225/45 will be a bit tall.
I run 215/40/17 Kuhmos for AX and they are great. The MP3 whel weight is 24.5lbs, but the ASAs I use are only 19.4, so it drops a few pounds, and with the grip and weight reductions, it makes a huge difference on the course.

 

[MSP Pro]

cjstringer:

yeah, I've been told the Hoosiers like lots of negative camber, too. Have you been able to get alignment specs on our MSPs? How are they set up from the factory? What about crash bolts availability?

Yeah, the 205/40x17 were 877 revs/mi, while the 225/45x17 were 835, much taller. What offset did your ASA JS1 wheels come with? How do you like them? Tire Rack? I noticed the Indiana location!

 

[slug420]

has anyone had a chance to weigh these definitively? without tires?

 

[SuperSpud]

that would be funny to start seeing people riding on 15" black racing fored rims just to reduce the weigh....

ummm,, they do.... all the honda/acura guys use 15" or 16"rota slipstreams... flat black... and subaru ppl also use rotas... light weight...

 

[SpicyRay]

oh well, they [the racingharts] look good and the car is still damn good...

 

[ping]

Hey - you can get plenty of grip from 15's or 16's, and they "arguably" drive better in some situations. The slight additional sidewall flex can absorb more road variations and keep the rubber on the road. The higher sidewall allows more "slip angle" and a more progressive breakaway - again, important in some situations and many "road" (not "track") situations. Higher sidewalls (-1 or -2 to the Racing Hart 17's) can actually be MORE fun to drive from behind the wheel, leaving alone that they look, well, not as good.

Rotating weight is worth a multiple of static weight, how much depends on speed. 5 lb per corner is a lot - greater than 10%. It'd definitely be noticable, all other things being equal...

...but there's the rub: Usually when someone changes from one wheel to another (or one wheel size to another) they change tire brands or styles as well, making direct comparisons useless (was it the weight reduction? Or the new rubber replacing them bald ol' bubbled, feathered and cords-out skins?)

If you're competing, it makes a difference. Lets face it , for many of us it's the look we're after. For some it's both. Best part is, it's enjoyable for all of us (that's why we're here - actually that's why many of us AREN'T here, we're out enjoying a good drive...!)

 

[LoS]

ummm,, they do.... all the honda/acura guys use 15" or 16"rota slipstreams... flat black... and subaru ppl also use rotas... light weight...

Ex Acura RSX owner here....i had 16" Spoon Sw-388's on my ride. i loved em..