msp flywheel vs n/a protege flywheel

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is there any real difference between the stock protege flywheel and the msp
i understand the jdm is lighter than the stock msp one, and if that is the case where could i get one or does someone have one for sale. still a newb so still kinda learning some stuff about modding in general and obviously this car a buddy of mine has an 03.5 (not so stock) so im not completely foreign to the protege.
 
MSP Flywheel is the SAME exact flywheel as in all the other US 2.oL Proteges including the P5.

Same weight.
Same Part.
 
Because you can argue that those are TOO light for the street.
 
Because you can argue that those are TOO light for the street.

i can argue that a fidanza is just fine for the street. i have run one for over 60k on the street in chicago suburb hell and would never go back to the lead frisbee that came stock.
 
i can argue that a fidanza is just fine for the street. i have run one for over 60k on the street in chicago suburb hell and would never go back to the lead frisbee that came stock.
You will get no arguement from me on this...I just know some guys dont like how it drives with it.
It would not bother me a bit and like anything else or any other car....It will become second nature once you drive with one.

SOme guys just cant do it.
 
I can see if you have a fidanze and 13" steelies you'd be doing a burnout everywhere probably..... if you can't drive at all.......

I've got an SR one thats 9lbs and I ****** love it! Migth even machine it down to a 3 lb lol. Got the Rx-8 18s so It's nice to lighten up the drivetrain a bit to compensate. I'm sure the slicks on 15" lightweight drag rims will love it too :D


....... and not to mention it revs like a nascar which sounds wicked.
 
I have never seen one of these in action actually, besides when Bill reved his MSP in front of me at PUGI, the first thing I asked was how did you rev it so fast. LOL What exactly does it do street wise? Are just shifting sooner or more often? what about top speed issues?
 
I have never seen one of these in action actually, besides when Bill reved his MSP in front of me at PUGI, the first thing I asked was how did you rev it so fast. LOL What exactly does it do street wise? Are just shifting sooner or more often? what about top speed issues?

A lightweight flywheel makes it rev up quicker because it gets rid of alot of drivetrain weight.. It doesnt effect gearing or top speed..
 
hey appreciate it depending on the condition of the current stock flywheel i might stuck buy the jdm or have it resurfaced if its in good enough shape the transmission is pretty bad on mine. Right now im just trying to keep it good enough for dd cause this thing has been dogged i got it used and planned on making it a project and money's tight so options arent too great right now
 
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hey i know its off topic but does anyone have any major pics of there cars or do our profiles only use avatars and signature blocks i want to see a little more of what everyones got
 
Fidanza is honestly my favorite thing i have done to the car. It spools faster and just goes.

No, it spools slower, but revs faster.. You probably dont notice the spool though since it only effects the rpm's just a little bit with the stock turbo..
 
No, it spools slower, but revs faster.. You probably dont notice the spool though since it only effects the rpm's just a little bit with the stock turbo..


How would it spool slower if the car is able to get up and go faster due to a lighter driver train?
 
How a lightweight flywheel works

How does a lightweight flywheel work? Amongst the majority, there are two schools of thought concerning light flywheels. The first is that they do not contribute to power output. The second is that they do. Which thought is correct? In fact both, in a way, are correct.

If we measured the power output of an engine first with light flywheel and then again with the standard part on an engine dyno, no change in power will be seen to occur. At first it appears that the light flywheel has done nothing and was a total waste of cash. This is not the case. A dyno that shows max power at constant revs does not demonstrate what happens to an engine's power output in real life situations - like acceleration. If an engine is accelerated on a dyno (we are talking about a rate of around 2000rpm a second ) it would show a power output of around 20%-25% less than at the constant rev state.

The reason for this is that when accelerating a vehicle the engine not only has to push the total mass of the car but the internal components of the engine need to be accelerated also. This tends to absorb more power as the extra power is used accelerating the internal mass of the engine components and is why a motor accelerating on a dyno will produce less power than at constant revs. Also it must be remembered that the rate of acceleration on the engine internals is much greater that the rest of the car. This would then suggest that by lightening the flywheel, less power would be required to accelerate it and therefore more power would be available to push the car along.

Now, it may seen unbelievable that by removing a few pounds from the flywheel a noticeable difference to a 3000lb+ cars acceleration will be made. In fact the difference is quite noticeable and the secret behind this is hidden within the gearbox. Everyone knows that cars accelerate at a greater rate in low gears, this is because a cars gear box basically a mechanical lever and just like when using a leaver to lift a heavy object, the gearbox reduces the mass of the car that the engine sees. For example, in first gear an engine will see the car's mass as only around say 250lbs but the engine internal mass would still remain around 45lbs.
It is now easier to see were the extra performance comes from when you lighten a flywheel. You effectively "lighten" a car by more than 10% in first gear just by removing mass from the flywheel. As the gear used increases this "lightening" effect is reduced. This is why cars acceleration improvement reduces in higher gears, to very effect in top gear. Great for drags and tight race tracks but will not increase a car's top speed.

You will see the calculations include the diameter of the flywheel, weight lost (same overall rotating mass difference in UUC Stage1 or Stage2 due to pressure plate weight differences), gear ratios including 6-speed application, and typical diff ratio.
 
Yeah, Aftermarket one is worth it over the JDM flywheel. The only time it can get annoying is when you get stuck in stop and go traffic!
 

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