Thoughts on 0-20W Oil?

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Does Canada have CAFE too?

I live in US but there are many Canadians here who can answer this question.

 

[yrwei52]

⋯ I think a reason that OEMs say use 5w-30 in other countries is because 0w-20 might not be as available there

No, this definitely isn’t the case. You can find any viscosities of oil, including Toyota’s 0W-16 oil, and many different brands of oil you may not have seen here in other countries.

 

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Does Canada have CAFE too?

On a second thought, using 0W-20 in Canada would make more sense due to a colder climate. I live in South Texas, 11 months a year is summer time and then a week, maybe two weeks with close to freezing temperatures, rarely below freezing. When I bought the car I was using 0w-20 and after 2.500-3.000 miles (4.000-4.800 km) I felt a significant decrease in performance. I've even had instances when I would get the oil light before the regular 5.000 miles oil change. That's when I started to look into it. Why, why do I have to go to do an oil change every 5.000 miles? Too soon and due to excessive temperatures in the summer time, even sooner! And here I am today, using 5W-30, no more 0W-20 for me. If I'll ever move up north, then I would consider changing back to 0W-20 but here, for me, 5W-30 works perfect and now I do oil change at 7.500 miles. So fewer trips to the dealer and less money spent.

 

[dunhillmc]

No, this definitely isn’t the case. You can find any viscosities of oil, including Toyota’s 0W-16 oil, and many different brands of oil you may not have seen here in other countries.

Haven't Toyota 0w-8 and 0w-16 oils been used in Japan before they make it out to the US? CAFE isn't a thing there

 

[Kedis82ZE8]

Looks like 0W-16 started to be used in Japan in late 90s...or development started

The Skinny on 0W-16 Oil | Performance Motor Oil & Transmission Fluid | ENEOS

View the original article published by National Oil & Lube News June 30, 2017.

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The Skinny on OW-16 Oil

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Some interesting info in this link too

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[Jmaz]

My 2014 Touring had dealer oil changes until 5/60 powertrain warranty expired. After that I did a few 0w-20 oil changes myself and then went 5w-30. Quieter and smoother, no comparison. No more 0w-20. My agenda for a quieter, long lasting engine doesn't line up with the thinner oil/CAFE blather aimed at the US market.
For those who desire a thinner oil that pumps well at low temperature but still want a thicker oil at operating temperatures, consider a 0w-30. I'm highly considering trying out Mobil 1 0w-30 ESP. It has a pretty low pour point for low temperature pumpability and an operating temperature viscosity that borders on the thicker side at almost a 40 weight. Having a smaller viscosity "spread" than a 0w-40, it has less/no VII's (Viscosity Index Improvers) to shear down. Also understand it has a good dose of esters (group 5 synthetic) which have good cleaning ability and contribute to really smooth running.

 

[N7turbo]

I was impressed by the cold flow tests of Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W-30 (they don't make a 0W-30). Also, you want an oil that uses some boron as a friction reducer because it starts to work at lower temperatures than molybdenum.