MS3 tranny really sucks

dcomiskey

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2007 MS3 GT
While I still enoy my car (besides the CEL I still haven't had checked), I'm pretty annoyed at the quality of the transmission on our cars. I'm wondering if anyone at Mazda actually ran the car through QA testing. Second gear grind is pretty much a "feature" on every MS3. Now that it's cold as hell out, I'm having a worse problem with 3rd gear. In fact, when the car is cold, I can barely get the car into 3rd. It's like the synchs are completely messed up. I have to practically force it into gear. (notcool)
 
Warm your car up before you drive it. A lot of cars have problems getting into gear when the gear box is frozen.
 
my reg mazda3 with the mazda speed short shifter kit is a pita to get into gear with the subzero temps we have now... i would wait until summer before you get all bent outa shape...
 
Might be something as simple as a gear shift linkage adjustment. Mine is a little tough when it's 8F outside (as it was yesterday AM) but after a few miles it's fine.
 
Um you do have to push the clutch in first you know (enguard)







:D
Just jerking your chain.

By the way i haven't had any issues nor has my wife with shifting in the MS3 in near or below freezin temps. Then agin we do keep it in the garage at night.
 
CTGrey02 said:
Warm your car up before you drive it. A lot of cars have problems getting into gear when the gear box is frozen.

This makes a huge difference. Im in Minnesota and it has been sub-zeros this whole last week. I'm talking -10 to -15 deg's here. Whenever I would drive my car, I would let it warm up for like 10 min before moving. The clutch always feels a lot better after. Even letting it warm up for that long, things are still kinda stiff untill I have driven for a few miles.
 
Garcia y Vega said:
This makes a huge difference. Im in Minnesota and it has been sub-zeros this whole last week. I'm talking -10 to -15 deg's here. Whenever I would drive my car, I would let it warm up for like 10 min before moving. The clutch always feels a lot better after. Even letting it warm up for that long, things are still kinda stiff untill I have driven for a few miles.

I try if I'm able to in the morning, but more often than not, I can't. I never had this problem with my VWs or other cars with manual transmissions. I think if Mazda took the time to cold test this trans, they would have done something about it. When the temp is 5 deg, it takes the car nearly 30 minutes for the car to actually warm up. What an incredible waste of gas.
 
I had to go to dealership to have linkage adjusted because I couldn't get it into 1,2,or R. New gearbox bound to have issues.
 
All gear oils have an optimum operating temp range. Cars that use standard weight motor oils instead of say 75/90 gear oil have different issues.
I'm going to agree with the warm up suggestion otherwise change out the trans fluid (careful about the LSD and it's requirements).
I have not had any problems with shifting even on the mountain in the snow but the temps aren't as low as some of those listed above.
 
dcomiskey said:
I try if I'm able to in the morning, but more often than not, I can't. I never had this problem with my VWs or other cars with manual transmissions. I think if Mazda took the time to cold test this trans, they would have done something about it. When the temp is 5 deg, it takes the car nearly 30 minutes for the car to actually warm up. What an incredible waste of gas.

Just wake up 5-10 minutes earlier in the morning.
 
Hehe. Car starter ftw. =)

It's -20C outside today. If I go out and drive the car without warming it up, the shifter and clutch get really sluggish and I grind 3rd like crazy.
 
I believe Maestro is right.

Although my ms3 tranny seems to be smooth as silk i have been having these same issues with my jeep tj. Yesterday i put Royal Purple synthetic SAE 75w-90 GL-4/5 and it made the world of difference.

So today while the ms3 was at the dealer getting the cel checked again i had them put in the same stuff. It doesnt feel any different to me but then again there was nothing wrong with it in the first place.

I think Red Line is the best but i couldnt find it locally so settled on Royal Purple.
Mazda dealer charged $38 to change the engine and transmission oil (i supplied both oils).

If your out of warranty then this could be a cheap fix, defiantly worth a try.
 
I have only had my car for a couple days but its been pretty cold here in CT and I havent had any issues with getting in to gear or grinding. I do warm my car up every morning so maybe that helps a bit but I wouldnt expect it to be happening to you after its been warmed up. My MSP would give me some issues going into reverse on cocld days but never while I was driving. My advice to yu would be to try warming it up and see if it makes a difference and if it doesnt take it to Mazda.
 
no problem here...

dcomiskey said:
I try if I'm able to in the morning, but more often than not, I can't. I never had this problem with my VWs or other cars with manual transmissions. I think if Mazda took the time to cold test this trans, they would have done something about it. When the temp is 5 deg, it takes the car nearly 30 minutes for the car to actually warm up. What an incredible waste of gas.
Hmmmm. Generally not good advice to let the car idle to warm for extended periods. It's been below zero here in Vermont, and I find I idle for about 30 seconds, duriing which time I step on the clutch and run thru the gears a couple of times, then drive off. Shifting is just fine, and the car is warm in under 5 minutes..... I had considered switching to REDLINE MTL, but haven't yet found it necessary.
 
How do you run through the gears before driving off.... I'm assuming you mean you keep the clutch down and move the shifter?
 
Olestra said:
How do you run through the gears before driving off.... I'm assuming you mean you keep the clutch down and move the shifter?

yeah he said that in his post :p

I usually let my car warm for ~ 1-2 minutes or so and do the same to my shifter (although I usually just wiggle back and forth in neutral)
 

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