MP3, MSP and P5 Engine Management solution

[hukster00]

perfworks - are you still working on getting the afc to work ?

 

[perfworks]

perfworks - are you still working on getting the afc to work ?

Yes, but it isn,t very beneficial with the stock ignition mapping the way it is. It seems to advance the timing too much when you tune out the stock injectors. That is why we figured to go with a unit that will do everything according to its own mapping and calculations, rather than fighting to get our results from the stock unit.

 

[perfworks]

Nick, Andy, awesome new!

This is finally something that I can get excited about. Still learning a lot about forced induction and tuning, and the plug and play of the system is exactly what I needed.

a couple of questions,

1. As I understand it, the J&S wouldn't be necessary with the parallel unit?

2. It will be easy enough to pass california emissions with this unit, even if I install the larger injectors on my MSP?

3. Will you be coming anywhere in California for one of your dyno days?

1. You wont need ANY other device on the vehicle any longer. You wont even need a boost controller. As it is built into the system. Just needs activation. We will even get the traction control working for those launches at the track
2. Emmisions from the tailpipe you shouldnt have any issues if the EMS is tuned correctly and you follow our instructions. I will go into more of this at some point in the week.
3. That will be one of the stops we will make.

 

[midnightracr]

U got your s*** together

Which setup do u recomend for me. I want to run 200-220 or more whp the parelell or the stand-alone. I know I will need bigger injectors but please give me the run down of what I will need so when i order my kit from Andy i can tell him exactly what i need Thanx in advance

 

[02.5 P5]

what about an upgraded fuel pump, will that be needed with the bigger injectors?

 

[122 Vega]

I still don't understand what is the benefit of running stand-alone vs. parallel if all the factory ECU does is control the dash. Does the stand-alone have different maps resulting in more hp? (I assume so since it runs a MAP). Can the parallel lose the MAF too?

I am very interested in this unit, this may be the deciding factor on whether I keep this car or trade it it on my wife's Cooper S. (If so, I'll end up back in some car older than me...69 Alfa GTV maybe)

I was also considering the DFI Gen 7 but this is way better because it is PnP and uses the factory sensors. I didn't want to switch over to all GM sensors.

This is exactly what I want, something that is a plug in, and offers good drivability that can compensate for Oregon's constantly variable weather conditions(most important) and maybe a few extra ponies. This summer definately, maybe sooner (graduation is in 17 weeks...)

Thanks,

Britt

 

[low_psi]

Perf- Will the OBDII system still work with the AEM in parallel? A cheap OBDII datalogger that connects to the OBDII port would make datalogging very simple. With the boost control solenoid installed, will the user be able to switch between Low/High Boost from inside the cabin, or will you need to do this via laptop?

02.5 P5- A larger or inline fuel pump would be a good idea with new injectors.

 

[Reitrof]

I'm sorry if I missed this info in the previous posts but with a Stock P5 engine and the Parallel system, what kind of HP and torque is expected?

 

[WShade]

Will you provide tuning software to those of us who have access to our own dyno? Auto-tune is very conservative from what I have seen with the Hondata stuff and I live on the edge

 

[PaulMP3]

Glad to see the EMS is getting close to production... I really like the idea of the self tunning WB..

 

[doggman]

man this is awesome!!! i cant keep this smile off my face!!! sign me up for a parallel. i also have the same question as Britt " Can the parallel lose the MAF too?" if i have a catback, a dp, and an intake at the time i order one of your units (most likely your parallel system) then i add cams, pullies,.......etc then would i have to send it out to you. so that you can reprogram it? or will it compensate for these added changes? one last question, when i get the parallel system, do i have to get it dyno'ed right away if at all, and do you or i just tune it at the dyno or???

thanks for the time spent on this guys!!!! this is great!!!!

a vary happy
-dave

 

[doggman]

ALSO: what exactly is the Wideband option that you offer? And what does the pnp actually look like and how would you change the boost from this unit or would you need a laptop?
-dave

 

[Mental Addiction]

It's good to see someone else working on a PnP system.

A few people here know what we have been doing and I will let it out as well.

We are also using AEM for a standalone.We have been using AEM for over a year(we were the first to use it on a Mustang and give feedback to AEM on it) and IMO it's the best software on the market.

I'm sure Nick has encounted the same problems we have with the Protege.


Good luck with the project and hope it works out well.


To everyone that hasn't played with the software,
download it here.
http://forum.aempower.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=4385

 

[MPNick]

1
2. Emmisions from the tailpipe you shouldnt have any issues if the EMS is tuned correctly and you follow our instructions. I will go into more of this at some point in the week.
3. That will be one of the stops we will make.

How do you remove the OBDII computer and past any state test? It is not legel to remove the OEM computer and it will not pass. Ask Joe S, you had him remove his stock computer and he now cannot pass NJ inspection. He need to buy another computer just to pass. The question was asked if they can still pass inspection. The most states that do more then just test the tailpipe, in this case they will fail.


Thanks again


Later..........Nick

 

[perfworks]

How do you remove the OBDII computer and past any state test? It is not legel to remove the OEM computer and it will not pass. Ask Joe S, you had him remove his stock computer and he now cannot pass NJ inspection. He need to buy another computer just to pass. The question was asked if they can still pass inspection. The most states that do more then just test the tailpipe, in this case they will fail.


Thanks again


Later..........Nick

First I'll clear up this misinformation.
If you are reffering to "KZA" then this has nothing to do with me. "chaz" a fellow member here on the forum swapped ECUs with him. I simply helped them do it so as not to take up too much time.
From my understanding the Check Engine light came on from the lack of continuity in the VTCS circuit. Common for those who switch to a P5 ecu. ANY time the CEL is present the state inspection station will fail it.
The car will pass emmisions testing with flying colors. We have specific instructions for the enduser.

 

[perfworks]

ALSO: what exactly is the Wideband option that you offer? And what does the pnp actually look like and how would you change the boost from this unit or would you need a laptop?
-dave

We have an AEM UEGO package. It will be used in conjunction with the unit. It replaces the stock Narrowband sensor or it can go into a seperate bung. We send out specific instructions as to how and where to mount the unit.
Once we are ready for the unit to hit the market I will go over what will be needed to incorporate this to the box.
I will take some pics of a unit for you all to see. At this time I will NOT post the harness. But I will once we are all said and done, within the two to three week period I have announced earlier

 

[MPNick]

First I'll clear up this misinformation.
If you are reffering to "KZA" then this has nothing to do with me. "chaz" a fellow member here on the forum swapped ECUs with him. I simply helped them do it so as not to take up too much time.
From my understanding the Check Engine light came on from the lack of continuity in the VTCS circuit. Common for those who switch to a P5 ecu. ANY time the CEL is present the state inspection station will fail it.
The car will pass emmisions testing with flying colors. We have specific instructions for the enduser.

He swapped out the ecu based on you telling him that he needed do so with the turbo kit.

You are talking about tailpipe testing only. Most states do more then just that. You cannot even pass inspection in the state you live in with the AEM. The question was can he pass inspection in his state. If they do more then test tailpipe and most states do, he will not pass.


Thanks again


Later.........Nick

 

[perfworks]

It's good to see someone else working on a PnP system.

A few people here know what we have been doing and I will let it out as well.

We are also using AEM for a standalone.We have been using AEM for over a year(we were the first to use it on a Mustang and give feedback to AEM on it) and IMO it's the best software on the market.

I'm sure Nick has encounted the same problems we have with the Protege.


Good luck with the project and hope it works out well.


To everyone that hasn't played with the software,
download it here.
http://forum.aempower.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=4385

I have been working with AEM on many of the Data stream issues.
Hopefully it will be resolved soon for all the Ford EECV ECUs.
From what I understand they are close to compiling all the necessary information needed to finish the PnP for the later EECV mustangs.
It is a fantastic unit and there is alot more to come from this company.
AS far as recognizing problems, It is mainly in the EECV. The way we have configured the unit to plug in, It will perform without a hitch.
Hit me up sometime. I may have some interesting info for you as well you for me.
Who are you working with over at AEM?
turboperformanceworks@yahoo.com

 

[Captain KRM P5]

my state tests only by plugging into the OBDII port on modern vehicles. if i run a paralell i assume this wouldn't be a problem, whereas a standalone would?

can we also keep this from becoming a nick VS nick thread like 1st's was? just wanted to throw that out there.

 

[perfworks]

He swapped out the ecu based on you telling him that he needed do so with the turbo kit.

You are talking about tailpipe testing only. Most states do more then just that. You cannot even pass inspection in the state you live in with the AEM. The question was can he pass inspection in his state. If they do more then test tailpipe and most states do, he will not pass.


Thanks again


Later.........Nick

You will be ignored if you continue. I have already answered these questions. Please refrain from posting in this thread.