mods for 200 hp?

Yeah, lol. I've got like $3,000 in mods and he had a catback, intake and tuned on a Cobb Accessort... So that's like $1500 in mods... LOL Of course he paid triple for his car compared to what I paid...

I'd like to see that, not saying it didn't happen, but I'm dead even with a wrx, I'm making 195 whp and my 323 weighs 2500 lbs. unless the dyno the guy gave me was bs
 
Int + TBE + Meth + SSAFC+ MBC = 200whp on the cheap

all that is maybe $1200-$1300

I like your list. I don't think it can be had for $1300, but not too far off. I don't think meth or any charge cooling is a good idea on a daily driver. Nor is it necessary for 200whp on an MSP. Sure, it buys some insurance, but you don't really need it with a pggyback like the SSAFC.

There are no more full turbo back exhausts being sold AFAIK. The Ion and the GHL both are out of production. The only downpipes really that exist are Corksport's at $400, and this new universal Edelbrock that Chiqles found. I am sure the Edelbrock will need some kind of modification like an extended waterneck on the thermostat housing like Pope's 3" DP required, but I like the fact that it is cast iron.

The Corksport DP's have been known to break even with the "required" motor mount inserts, so any way you go, you need a flex pipe installed. You'll need a 2.5" cat to match, and then custom work all the way back to keep a stock appearance. The bazooka that now sticks out under the rear skirt with most of the aftermarket options looks far too on the ricey side for my tastes.

I was quoted $700 to do the flex pipe to tailpipe with a cat and a resonator all at 3". Would be cheaper of course without a cat or resonator, and 2.5" would probably be a bit cheaper as well and still overkill for 200whp.

SSAFC's typically run $2-300 used on here, but you also need a patch harness since you really don't want to cut up the stock harness. New patch harnesses are a huge rip off, but I haven't found an alternative to just biting the bullet and shelling out the $200.

The Injen and AEM intakes that use the fortuitous hole in the driver's side of the engine bay (because it is a mirrored part and is where the windshield washer fluid reservoir sits on the other side), is ingenious and has obvious advantages to a short ram intake. They are pricey but can be found used.

If you want HP on the cheap, I would also suggest removing the butterflies from the IM. You could also "port and polish" but I've seen enough of those jobs go wrong to advise against that for most novices. This mod will only cost you an IM gasket, labor and tools. Although, at this age, there are going to be some cracked hoses, so factor in some new hoses while you are at it.

So with some bargain hunting and tool borrowing, maybe $1500 is possible, but then you have to ask yourself. This car is worth $5-6k, is it really worth putting 25% of the car's value into it. Or is that $1500 plus the $5k for the car better used as a downpayment on an FRS?

But I understand this is a hobby and although an expensive one, you are paying to have fun and learn, not necessarily get value out of your purchases. Plus if you keep your stock parts, you can sell the mods when it time to move on.
 
I was at 200whp with a K&N filter, Vibrant exhaust and boost controller. The MSP's all act very different with mods though.
 
o with some bargain hunting and tool borrowing, maybe $1500 is possible, but then you have to ask yourself. This car is worth $5-6k, is it really worth putting 25% of the car's value into it. Or is that $1500 plus the $5k for the car better used as a downpayment on an FRS?

Which is why I'm selling mine as soon as I get the replacement motor in. Pay off all my CC debt incurred from the MSP, and put a downpayment on a FRS. Should be in one by about spring time.
 
Which is why I'm selling mine as soon as I get the replacement motor in. Pay off all my CC debt incurred from the MSP, and put a downpayment on a FRS. Should be in one by about spring time.

How much are you gonna blow on mods for the FRS? The mod bug isn't going to go away. It will be slower than your MSP in stock form.
 
Haze has a very good point. It is very hard to resist, but the FRS won't have all the "age" problems that the MSP has. I don't mind modding a car, I mind hunting for exhaust leaks, replacing worn shocks, worn bushings, broken motor mounts, interior creaks and rattles, wheel bearings, broken CV boots, and the list goes on forever. For those of us still on the original motor, turbo, LSD, clutch, and transmission, we are always wondering how much time we have left before the next several hundred or thousand dolllar repair.

If you want to make a 10 year old car exactly like new, it actually costs more than a new car. While you can usually remove mods and sell them, all those things you replaced because of age don't really change the value of the car at all.
 
How much are you gonna blow on mods for the FRS? The mod bug isn't going to go away. It will be slower than your MSP in stock form.

Wheels and tires, and that's about it. If I get an FRS it would be to use as a reliable "fun car", and stock class auto-x car.

I may not even get a car though. My priorities have changed; going fast, flying through in the mountains, and racing are not at the top of my list anymore. Other hobbies (weight lifting, fitness, hiking, camping), and my family have taken over, and my car now is just an occasional andrenaline rush for me.
 
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