Microtech

[LinuxRacr]

Comming soon to LinuxRacr....A LAPTOP!!

 

[Micah]

ok, first off before I start this:

Most people here know me, I ask questions alot. Some of them might be off base, but I still try to glean some information for all the members of the forum. I'm not a mechanic, I'm a network admin. But I have spent lots of time at the shop lately, and I've been watching my friends tune their cars both successfully, and not so successfully for years. So now I'm taking a shot with my own car.


ok, here goes.

Terry, you said that the stock ECU will not be in the car. I'm just going to take a guess here and say that the bulk of your kits are sold to people who will be either doing the install themselves, or having a shop do the install for them. Correct me if I am wrong, but without the stock ECU, it might be a little hard for them to take a car to a garage for a routine problem which could be checked using ODB-II. Now as far as I know, a shop will (cash in like a mofo) troubleshoot without ODB-II but the costs for time and labor will continue until the problem is solved. Are you proposing that people will be able to swap back the stock ECU in the case that they have a problem? Without the data logging of the stock ECU - would such a situation even be possible?

The inclusion of bigger injectors definitely sounds like a step in the right direction for the kind of power you are talking about, but doesn't the fuel pump also need to keep up.

Stage X
Will be a "special system"
That will be very similar to a stage 3/4 system however the turbo, Intercooler, wastagate, bov, manifold and other things will be upgraded for 500+hp operation

"other things" - I'm guessing that would include forged internals, an LSD, Fuel pump, and more. Sounds like you might as well do a complete engine/tranny rebuild/swap. Now that sounds like something Perf proposed a while ago; imitation is the sincerest flattery.

oh, and a simple question:

Will you have access to a dyno at the meet.

 

[perfworks]

Adjustable Sample Rates up to 100 samples per second Simultaneously record data from up to 25 inputs including: Air/fuel Ratios, Injector Duty Cycle and Pulse Width, RPM and Throttle Position, Gear Position, MPH, Boost

Does this unit datalog?
are you using a map sensor?
Micro tech from what i understand uses speed density.

 

[perfworks]

Stage X
Will be a "special system"
That will be very similar to a stage 3/4 system however the turbo, Intercooler, wastagate, bov, manifold and other things will be upgraded for 500+hp operation

HHmmmm sounds a little familiar(blowjob)

 

[GOTZOOM?]

You can download the Microtech software here and get a feel for what it will do. I like how it shows a large display (in Data Gauges mode) for the air/fuel ratio. I ordered the AEM wideband and will go perfectly with this. has different types of graphs also.

Microtech software.

 

[Kooldino]

"other things" - I'm guessing that would include forged internals, an LSD, Fuel pump, and more. Sounds like you might as well do a complete engine/tranny rebuild/swap. Now that sounds like something Perf proposed a while ago; imitation is the sincerest flattery.

Whoa whoa whoa. That's a big assumption, man. Besides, even if what you're guessing is true, there's no imitation going on...it's not like Nick invented the mods, he just suggested them, as 100 other members did before him.

 

[Micah]

yeah, I guess you are right Dana. After I read your comment the first thing I thought was - 'yeah, it would be perfectly logical to think of a complete rebuild/swap - when you are looking to make that much of an improvement over stock in any car'. However, while many members have made the recommendation - I do believe Perf was the first "authorized vendor" to offer such an option on this forum.

heheheh.... kinda brings this scene to mind:

BANKY signs the book of another COLLECTOR.
COLLECTOR
So you draw this!
BANKY
(signing the comic)
I ink it and I'm also the colorist.
The guy next to me draws it. But we
both came up with the characters,
COLLECTOR
What's that mean - you .ink it'!
BANKY
Well. It means that Holden draws the
pictures in pencil, and then he gives
it to me to go over in ink
COLLECTOR
So you just trace!
Banky freezes up. He composes himself and continues
signing.
BANKY
It's not tracing. I add depth and
shading to give the image mere
definition. Only then does the drawing
really take shape.
COLLECTOR
You go over what he draws with a pen -
that's tracing.
BANKY
(hands book back to
Collector)
Not really.
(calling out)
Next!
A LITTLE KID steps up but the Collector lingers.
COLLECTOR
Hey man. If somebody draws something
and then you draw the same thing right
on top of it, not going out-side the
designated original art what do call
that!
LITTLE KID
(shrugs)
I don't know. Tracing?
COLLECTOR
(to Banky)
See?
BANKY
It's not tracing.
COLLECTOR
Oh, but it is.
BANKY
(to Little Kid)
Do you want Lour book signed or what?
COLLECTOR
Hey - don't get all testy with him
just because you have a problem with
your station in life.
BANKY
I'm secure with what I do.
COLLECTOR
Then say it - you're a tracer.
BANKY
(grabbing Little Kid's book)
How should I sign this?
LITTLE KID
(grabs book back)
I don't want you to sign it, I want
the guy that draws Bluntman and
Chronic to sign it. You're just a
tracer.
COLLECTOR
Tell him, Little Shaver.
Holden accepts a comic from another Fan.
HOLDEN
(off comic)
Who do I sign it to!
Before Holden can finish, a loud crash is heard. He
looks to his left and freaks.
Banky is throttling the Collector from across the table.
The Collector attempts to fight him off. SECURITY GUARDS
pull them apart. Holden grabs Banky.
COLLECTOR
Jesus! All I did was call him a
tracer!
BANKY
(to Collector)
I'LL TRACE A CHALK LINE AROUND YOUR
DEAD F*CKING BODY, YOU F*CK?!
HOLDEN
(to Security Guard)
Could you get him out of here!
The Security Guards drag the collector away.
COLLECTOR
Hey, wait a sec! He jumped me! And
you're dragging me away!!
(exiting)
F*cking tracer!
BANKY
(calling OC)
YOUR MOTHER'S A TRACER!!


gotta love those free script sites! (http://sfy.iv.ru/sfy.html?script=chasing_amy ")

 

[1sty]

CHASING AMY, CLASSIC!
What the hell was the point though?

 

[Micah]

CHASING AMY, CLASSIC!
What the hell was the point though?

I was making a correlation between my discussion with Dana and the "tracer" bit.

 

[1sty]

Aah, copy cat if you will.

 

[Micah]

Yep, you said it, I inferred it. But the main reason I used that scene, is because there is a validity to both Banky and the Collectors stance.

In the situation at hand, Perfworks was the first authorized vendor to make the commitment to provide a kit in such a configuration. Spool will still be doing much work to present this new "stage x". So yes "add depth and shading" - seemed an appropriate comment to me.

 

[spoolinmp3]

Ok to awnser all your questions,

Does this unit datalog?

Yes it can datalog everything, it can be used to diagnose problems via datalogging
Just to name a few datalogging parameters
it covers boost, timing, fuel, rpm ect

are you using a map sensor

The microtech utilizes an internal map sensor. It is not speed density and it deletes your MAF. This actually also increases power since you are not utilizing the bottleneck MAF setup.

Terry, you said that the stock ECU will not be in the car. I'm just going to take a guess here and say that the bulk of your kits are sold to people who will be either doing the install themselves, or having a shop do the install for them. Correct me if I am wrong, but without the stock ECU, it might be a little hard for them to take a car to a garage for a routine problem which could be checked using ODB-II. Now as far as I know, a shop will (cash in like a mofo) troubleshoot without ODB-II but the costs for time and labor will continue until the problem is solved. Are you proposing that people will be able to swap back the stock ECU in the case that they have a problem? Without the data logging of the stock ECU - would such a situation even be possible?

The computer does not work with any type of obd scanning tools since this is essentially a race computer. However dattalogging will help in troubleshooting.
This is a simple standalone setup similar to haltech ect.
These computers are not for you to take to pep boys and hook up a scanner

Whoa whoa whoa. That's a big assumption, man. Besides, even if what you're guessing is true, there's no imitation going on...it's not like Nick invented the mods, he just suggested them, as 100 other members did before him.

The stage x will not include rods, tranny's ect. Just the turbo kit and computer. As far as copying somebody, I would like to graciously remind that I was the first to turbo the car, the first to offer a manifold, turbo kit, and now standalone engine managment systems. So I dont like to think of my self as a copy cat. Nick has his own agenda and program. All I am doing is upgrading pieces on our existing tirbo kit to make it sustainable for 500whp operation.

 

[Micah]

Well said and well read.
(applause)

 

[ddogg777]

Spoolin, what components come with the Microtech kit? Is it the LT-8, bigger injectors, harness and dual maps? Or is there more to it than that? In other words, what makes it stand out from the kits from BR7?

 

[GOTZOOM?]

Spoolin, what components come with the Microtech kit? Is it the LT-8, bigger injectors, harness and dual maps? Or is there more to it than that? In other words, what makes it stand out from the kits from BR7?

For one it will have the protege plug.

 

[ARD MP5]

It stands out from BR7 because Spool is creating maps specifically for his kits. That's how it's different. BR or MT can send preprogrammed maps but won't be dialed in like spool's.

Rishie

 

[spoolinmp3]

Well said and well read.

tHANKS

It stands out from BR7 because Spool is creating maps specifically for his kits. That's how it's different. BR or MT can send preprogrammed maps but won't be dialed in like spool's.

Exactly and not only that I was assured by microtech australia (This is different than the U.S. guys) that we will have access to these computers that are fully plug and play. This is not a kit that you have to hard wire in like the other guys are selling. And you dont have to utilize a newly fabbed crank trigger like tec units because our microtech is specificaly setup to utilize the stock setup. On top of that we will have protege specific maps and on top of that......................the most important thing............support

 

[duMb KeoLa]

yeah, I guess you are right Dana. After I read your comment the first thing I thought was - 'yeah, it would be perfectly logical to think of a complete rebuild/swap - when you are looking to make that much of an improvement over stock in any car'. However, while many members have made the recommendation - I do believe Perf was the first "authorized vendor" to offer such an option on this forum.

sounds like hes trying to get some free stuff from perf...lol, jp...but anyway, perf did say that his piggyback would be out one week after he first got it and that it would be for sell....correct me if im wrong but i still dont see it for sell to this day, or any sign of a dyno sheet anywhere, not trying to hate, but its just the truth...terry, you know im in...i might need a lot of help and i actually might call you up, but i know that you will be there because of the great customer service.....

ive already asked questions like what about bo0stin my car at 10psi and having a 30 shot of nitrous, the answer was that a map can be custom made for this and sent to me...thats just a taste of what kind of maps can be made...

does that get me some free stuff??? hehehe

 

[spoolinmp3]

shhhh man, dont make it to obvious that your my boy
Yeah you get a free microtech
Did you get your email that I responded to ya about the maps

 

[Little Beavis]

Damn. . .and all this time I thought I was your boy. . .
but I guess I was just the red-headed-step-child in Illinois. Figures.

I'm SO interested and yet SO unsure. . .we'll talk at the open house! As long as I make it there. . .