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Mazdaspeed6 FMIC Kit Ready To Go!!!
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legally it can only void your warranty on items that they can directly prove it broke. I.e. it can't void the warranty on your sound system, AWD, exhaust, battery, etc. If you blow the engine (somehow.. I hear the MZR engine is quiiite strong), yeah they might not want to cover that.
ya the DISI engine is strong but they COULD tie it to AWD systems for added power... they could give you an upfront "no" but you could fight it and make them prove it...
Just to update the project is still trying to be peiced together and if the intrest is still there we will continue on the path
Just to update the project is still trying to be peiced together and if the intrest is still there we will continue on the path
Interested =D
this project is awsome, been reading alot about upgrades in these forums and this FMIC kit once bugs are ironed out, and New downpipe with high flow cat and cat back exhaust system are top priority oh yeah that rear engine brace too
Hope the project is still underway, and is there a date set for the dyno? or did i miss it somewhere? anyways awsome job so far.
this project is awsome, been reading alot about upgrades in these forums and this FMIC kit once bugs are ironed out, and New downpipe with high flow cat and cat back exhaust system are top priority oh yeah that rear engine brace too
Hope the project is still underway, and is there a date set for the dyno? or did i miss it somewhere? anyways awsome job so far.
Karma_hunden
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- '04 protege, then '05 mazda 3i, then '06 MS6 GT, now '10 RX8 R3
Okay, so It's been 4 months now and no Dynos.....Where are they?
Karma_hunden said:Okay, so It's been 4 months now and no Dynos.....Where are they?
maybe nowhere.. I say just go for the TMIC, the FMIC seems to not be worth the effort.
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Karma_hunden said:Okay, so It's been 4 months now and no Dynos.....Where are they?
forgot about this thread on this forum, sorry about that. we updated over on a different forum so i'll recap here.
alot of factors contributed to what amounts to a scrapping of and starting from the ground up on this intercooler kit. firstly, the fabricator and i did not see entirely eye to eye on the direction this kit was taking designwise and during testing. there were quite a few criticisms fielded about the kit that we felt obligated to answer not only from the standpoint of public knowledge but from a sales standpoint as well. there were a number of positives about the kit that have been discussed throughout the thread, however in the end the kit was not where we wanted it to be and not where it would satisfy demand or make a break even return in my mind.
secondly, we demanded a variety of tests and dyno runs for the vehicle under a variety of conditions and were largely ignored. the subsequent tests, though inadequete, showed that the car actually LOST power with the addition of the FMIC kit and hit fuel cut. we feel these were due to design issues with the housing of the vehicles highly sensitive mass air flow sensor. these MAF sensors as most people know are very sensitive to any kind of change in the intake system and will dramatically affect vehicle operation. we argued for a redesign and provided specific and simple examples how to repair the problem for the fabricator, and were instead presented with the following options;
1) redesign the kit to utilize the stock airbox
2) provide engine management to tune around the problem (it should be noted this would likely NOT work)
neither of those options were remotely palatable to us for reasons easily seen. this project as well as the TMIC have forced us to re-evaluate all custom projects. we are now doing all future fabrication either in house or locally to retain creative integrity and quality control as well as distribution control.
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wow, that's a shame. Is the TMIC any good? How much of a difference does it make acceleration-wise?
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Karma_hunden said:wow, that's a shame. Is the TMIC any good? How much of a difference does it make acceleration-wise?
the TMIC is excellent. outside of the dyno graphs we have on it, the car accelerates and drives much quicker and smoother through the powerband and does not heatsoak nearly as bad or fast as the stock IC
Dude.. three posts down. lolSpeed6 Guy said:I just want to know what happened to this. Did you guys run out of money on it or what.
Just was on your site and there is no talk of front mount anything.
Speed6 Guy said:?????^^^^^^^??????
AND wheres your FMIC
He ment post #149....I think.
That is quite the accusation you just made there. The kit had errors that arrouse out of the car that were unforseen and were not fixable without further additions. Which is why the kit was never produced. Who would buy a kit that costs X amount and then has to buy Y product as well as Z product just to make it work.
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its taking alot for me not to fling obscenities left and right in this post. theres so much assumption, ignorance and bullheadedness that its hard to know where to start.
first of all, its been said on this forum and more than a few others what happened with this kit. the same reasons that no other company has a satisfactory retail kit on the market yet.
not that its any of your business how i conduct business with my suppliers, vendors or fabricators, the design was exclusive to us and not owned by anyone else. the R&D was bought and paid for before work was even begun. the design belongs to us unless we decide we no longer at some point want to further pursue it. we weren't satisifed with the direction this company was taking and we are working with another company on front mounts for both the 3 and the 6. the prototype for the 3 will in fact be ready next week. i also don't appreciate someone who has very little understanding of the efforts that went into this kit tell me or my staff how they think we should next proceed on it. if feel you know a good way to fabricate an intercooler kit, by all means grab some tools and go to town.
we didn't go broke, steal a design, give up on the program or sell snake oil. your remarks were naive at best and otherwise needlessly rude. you want to go ahead and remove pictures, go for it. you want to close or delete the thread be my guest. you want the facts on a project, how about you PM me or email me rather than make idiotic speculative remarks.
good day.
first of all, its been said on this forum and more than a few others what happened with this kit. the same reasons that no other company has a satisfactory retail kit on the market yet.
not that its any of your business how i conduct business with my suppliers, vendors or fabricators, the design was exclusive to us and not owned by anyone else. the R&D was bought and paid for before work was even begun. the design belongs to us unless we decide we no longer at some point want to further pursue it. we weren't satisifed with the direction this company was taking and we are working with another company on front mounts for both the 3 and the 6. the prototype for the 3 will in fact be ready next week. i also don't appreciate someone who has very little understanding of the efforts that went into this kit tell me or my staff how they think we should next proceed on it. if feel you know a good way to fabricate an intercooler kit, by all means grab some tools and go to town.
we didn't go broke, steal a design, give up on the program or sell snake oil. your remarks were naive at best and otherwise needlessly rude. you want to go ahead and remove pictures, go for it. you want to close or delete the thread be my guest. you want the facts on a project, how about you PM me or email me rather than make idiotic speculative remarks.
good day.
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also, since i've just been accused of "trying to dupe people" on this kit, lets make the record eminently clear;
we submitted requirements for what we wanted from this kit. we paid the company in advance and in full for over twice what we were quoted. deadlines were routinely exceeded. our requirements (such as allowing use of a CAI) were ignored. we made requirements of the company for when the car was to be dynoed. those were ignored. when the kit began experiencing the same problems as the other guys' kits were, we made requests for a redesign - with offers of added capital - that were ignored. at this point we requested a refund of the initial investment so that we could pursue the kit with a company who was more willing to what i was paying them for.
now frankly none of that kind of talk needs to be public knowledge because its a professional discourtesy of me to come on here and slam this guy. but i'll be damned if i am accused of duping anyone
we submitted requirements for what we wanted from this kit. we paid the company in advance and in full for over twice what we were quoted. deadlines were routinely exceeded. our requirements (such as allowing use of a CAI) were ignored. we made requirements of the company for when the car was to be dynoed. those were ignored. when the kit began experiencing the same problems as the other guys' kits were, we made requests for a redesign - with offers of added capital - that were ignored. at this point we requested a refund of the initial investment so that we could pursue the kit with a company who was more willing to what i was paying them for.
now frankly none of that kind of talk needs to be public knowledge because its a professional discourtesy of me to come on here and slam this guy. but i'll be damned if i am accused of duping anyone
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