Mazdaspeed6 FMIC Kit Ready To Go!!!

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ChopstickHero said:
Wow, looks great! awesome quality on those welds and the piping!

thanks sir

Jeph said:
Neither of you did :) Speed6 Guy accused me of shitting on it. Sorry if it came across that way, i was just bringing up a visual concern i saw with the intercooler behind the support, and maybe not getting the airflow it needed. But it is a great core, and i have no doubt you've done your research

hey i welcome criticism if its constructive, no worries.
 
What about the air this is stealing from the radiator? Is there any concern for overheating in the summer months?
 
Rawyzf said:
What about the air this is stealing from the radiator? Is there any concern for overheating in the summer months?

this was part of the reason for going with a core that was not super wide. there is still enough space we feel to properly flow air to the radiator, in tandem with the rad fans pulling heat away
 
Captain KRM P5 said:
maybe i missed it, where did matt or i say anyone was shitting on the thread? i don't personally tolerate that from myself or my staff and apologize if either one of us went that route.

thanks for the kind remarks otherwise, we're looking forward to the final results as much as everyone!

Time for me to visit the eye doctor. So sorry guys, seems I misquoted. keep up the good work.

I need to remember to drink more regularly so these things donn't happen. Too drunk to type means I can't make dumb posts.

I just reread this and I blatantly screwed that quote up. Jeez
 
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everything is cool. People get concers with new products but just remember who you have backing the product :)
 
we ran into some issues with the demo kit thus far that have prevented numbers from being up. i will detail those issues and what we are going to do about them here.

keep in mind the test car is in minnesota, where the current temps are well below what most of us are experiencing now. the demo car began experiencing fuel cut at wide open throttle after temps began to drop this week. after 4500 rpm at wide open throttle, the car would hir fuel cut. no check engine light mind you, just fuel cut. we are aware there are many people experiencing fuel cut on these vehicles right now (documented on a mazda6 forum) some vehicles bone stock, other with intakes and others with exhaust, all around the same RPM condition at WOT. until temps had truly cooled, the car was operating well.

we made some adjustments to the kit to ensure everything was installed correctly and took the car in. we were surprised by the dyno. the dyno was done on a Dynamatics model, not a Dynojet etc. The dyno run was a mere 180whp. Needless to say, we were not at all satisfied. After checking our air/fuel ratios, we found that at halfway through the powerband the air/fuel ratio was never leaner than 10 to 1, and at full throttle high rpm the wideband maxed out past 9 to 1. Obviously, the car is running extremely rich and losing power.

We are going to redesign the intake setup to a size and design more mimicing stock in terms of diameter and MAF housing and do more testing on the car this week.
 
By Dynamatics, do you mean dyno dynamics?

If that is the case, it is very common for dyno dynamics dynos to read much lower than a dynojet or even mustang dyno (but not to the same degree). On my MSP we dynoed 215whp on a Dyno Dynamics dyno, took it down the street to a dynojet dyno, after all the proper cool downs with same conditions and it read in the 250s for whp.

Obviously the AFRs are a dissapointment right now, but if it was a dyno dynamics, the low WHP rating is not a surprise.

A good read on dynojet horsepower vs. real world horsepower for anyone interested:

http://www.germanmotorcars.com/Dyno_load vs inertia_1.htm
 
II-Savy said:
I think was a just a joke, there is no FMIC
lmao!

poor numbers from what i was expecting, crossing my fingers for you guys though...hope your final product is awesome, i'm most definitely still interested.
 
Yea when we were getting the car dynoed they guys at the shop were saying that a STi stock dynos about 210-220 on that dyno, so 180 doesnt seem so bad to me, but hopefully will be a lot better
 
Dinos Speed6 said:
Yea when we were getting the car dynoed they guys at the shop were saying that a STi stock dynos about 210-220 on that dyno, so 180 doesnt seem so bad to me, but hopefully will be a lot better

210 for an STi is really awful, stock or not. the richness issue i think, along with fuel cut, will be resolved with an intake/MAF redesign
 
Captain KRM P5 said:
210 for an STi is really awful, stock or not. the richness issue i think, along with fuel cut, will be resolved with an intake/MAF redesign

I really don't think the richness issue has anything to do with your front mount IC, I think it's just in the MS6's tuning. I see 10.2~10.4 on my wideband every day, and have even seen it dip into the high 9's a couple of times(even at 17~18 psi). I don't currently have any issues with fuel cut though(never have), but I don't doubt that I might have to turn my boost down a little when it starts getting colder out.

I wonder if we could use a MAP clamp to stop the fuel cut, and lean the car out a little bit????
 
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