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never mind, I answered my own questions

Canada- 479.99/month with 5 grand down, 5.9% rate and that is the base MS6

Not a good deal at all imho
 
depends on the situation. I would not recommend a lease if you put a lot of miles/kms on the car or if you plan on keeping it the entire lease or mod it.

I keep my cars around 2-3 years. MSP is the longest time I've kept any car. 38000 kms on my car since June 2003. I sell my leases ( Usually around the time I need new tires), usually get a couple of grand back, and stick that on my new lease.

I do not mod my cars. Doing that to a lease is just plain dumb. I also do not put ANY money into the car besides gas EVER. What I mean by that is anything I buy and put on my car ( even new tires) is a total waste of money because techincially it's not mine and I don't get to keep it so what is the point? I also try to get some sort of free maintanance plan so I never pay for routine checkups, brakes, rotors etc. All taken care of.

Lease works for me because I always like to have a new car so I'll always have a payment every month anyways. Never put many kms on a car, and I never mod it. IT also helped me get into a home much faster because I'm technically not in "dept" for a car loan, and my payments are lower then what they would normally be which means more money in my pocket for other things every month. So far I've leased my last 3 cars and it's worked out ok.

I think I'm the exception as to why leases are generally thought of as bad.

That being said, I do not want a lease that is 700.00 a month. If I pay that kind of money I want to own the car in the end.
 
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Newf said:
never mind, I answered my own questions

Canada- 479.99/month with 5 grand down, 5.9% rate and that is the base MS6

Not a good deal at all imho

They just dropped the rate to 4.9%. You also get a .5% break for being a repeat lease customer, so the rate would be 4.4% for you Newf.
 
Mazda3 said:
They just dropped the rate to 4.9%. You also get a .5% break for being a repeat lease customer, so the rate would be 4.4% for you Newf.

hmm, that's better. Must go up and have a chit chat :)
 
Newf said:
hmm, that's better. Must go up and have a chit chat :)

Newf, get the damn car already....you're driving me crazy! You KNOW you want it!

LOL

R (rockon)
 
Sorry for bringing up an old post but I almost fell off my chair when I read the below...
You are either a typical Mazda sales rep or a very poor consumer.
I cannot imagine being stupid enough to put a downpayment on something that is 40k before even testing it. I can't imagine putting a downpayment on it even after testing it...maybe a week later after thoroughly testing the competition as well.
If a sales rep wouldn't let me test drive it, I wouldn't let them at my money and I would also call Mazda to complain.
wow...still laughing at this comment...

LIP

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Originally Posted by Mazda3
So let me get this straight?
You felt insulted that they didn't want you to test drive a limited production, exclusive car that was still in the plastic? And by your own addmission the car is out of your price range? And now that you have driven it most car enthusiasts would no longer buy that one? Cars at dealers aren't there to drive just for the hell of it, test drives are for people who are actually going to buy the car. My local dealer wouldn't have let you drive the Speed 6. You would have to sign the offer to purchase, leave a deposit, and have your credit approved first. Buy the way $5000 down will get you a lease payment of about $600 a month, not $400.

Do you really think they should let everyone who feels like it test drive this exclusive car? Thats just bad business. Each dealer is only getting between 1-4 of these and you want them to mile up a demo for punks to test drive? LOL.....wow.

And buy the way the Civic Si has an ugly cheap ass interior.


Hahaha... wow. Did I strike a nerve there? It was clear they were interested in showing the car to a few people, as it was one of the ones they ordered that wasn't spoken for. I guarantee I would never have gone through that if I was 35 or so. And "price range" is usually just something I do to make myself pretend I'm looking at more practical cars. We're all car enthusiasts here and it would be no fun if you followed a strict budget!

I don't even know what to say about people who would buy a car without even test driving it, it's ridiculous even thinking about it. I don't care if it's limited production or whatever. This isn't a bicycle, it's a $45,000 car taxes in, I'm damn well going to make sure it's the right one for me. They're not getting a cent until I'm sure I want the car. And I don't think there's anything wrong with shopping for a car that way.

And saying the new Civic Si has an ugly, cheap ass interior goes to show how much of a fanboi you are. Have fun with that Mazda 3
 
lip said:
Sorry for bringing up an old post but I almost fell off my chair when I read the below...
You are either a typical Mazda sales rep or a very poor consumer.
I cannot imagine being stupid enough to put a downpayment on something that is 40k before even testing it. I can't imagine putting a downpayment on it even after testing it...maybe a week later after thoroughly testing the competition as well.
If a sales rep wouldn't let me test drive it, I wouldn't let them at my money and I would also call Mazda to complain.
wow...still laughing at this comment...

LIP

I'm laughing just as hard at you. Re-read my reasons. If a dealer only gets 2 of these why would they mile one up as a demo?

Would you pay full price for the demo car after 50 of us test drove it?

Its because of the limited numbers I made this comment, if it was a regular production car then that would be different. Allthough if it were me I would still be qualifying anyone who test drove it. There's too many people out there who think test driving cars is like browsing at Wal-Mart.

I don't know what its like where you are, but here you can't test drive a 350Z at Nissan, you can't walk in to Chev and drive a Corvette, you can't test drive an S2000 at Honda etc.....

I don't think its unreasonable with a limited production car like this that you should have your mind 95% made up before you drive it. If you can't do that then its probably not the car for you.
 
fyi, I have a test drive scheduled for March 2nd. Not techincally scheduled really, but that is when someone from Mazda Canada will be in town and he's getting them to get the car our of the showroom and pass me the keys.

Yes, I am going over the dealer....again.
 
Rainman said:
Newf, get the damn car already....you're driving me crazy! You KNOW you want it!

LOL

R (rockon)

ha ha ha. You payin???

I was supposed to get the first one that came in. Had let the owners know that I wanted it. But, car got delayed in April, I waited, waited, gave up and renovated house and installed new home theater in August, then my dealer got bought out, the MS6 came in, they didn't give a s*** about calling me....here we are today.

Ironically, car is still there. I told them back in the fall. Gimme deal, lets work something out. I told them the car was going to sit there for 6 - 8 months if not. Guess what? It's still there.

$40k sedans just won't sell well here. Granted, a few want it badly, and I might miss my chance. But most of those people would rather get a BMW or Audi instead (if they even now what a MS6 really is in the first place)
 
Newf said:
fyi, I have a test drive scheduled for March 2nd. Not techincally scheduled really, but that is when someone from Mazda Canada will be in town and he's getting them to get the car our of the showroom and pass me the keys.

Yes, I am going over the dealer....again.

You're entering dangerous territory Newf, that test drive could break you!! (laugh)
 
Mazda3 said:
You're entering dangerous territory Newf, that test drive could break you!! (laugh)

Yeah tell me about it. I told the woman last night about the test drive. She was not so exicted. It seems I'll need to redo the bathroom if I want the car :)
 
I can assure you that you do not have to put a downpayment to test drive most cars. I have test driven various cars from 300C's to BMW 5 series and never had to put any downpayment for it. Again, I would simply laugh at you and walk out the door.
The only difference between dealers I have found is that some want to come out for the test drive and others don't care and let you go alone. Regarding Mazda, I took out an RX-8 and only had to call ahead to go out...this was when it was just released.

I have never heard of such a thing that you are suggesting and frankly it seems like strange and shady dealerships only would do such a thing.

I am in Canada btw.

Have a great day.

LIP

Mazda3 said:
I'm laughing just as hard at you. Re-read my reasons. If a dealer only gets 2 of these why would they mile one up as a demo?

Would you pay full price for the demo car after 50 of us test drove it?

Its because of the limited numbers I made this comment, if it was a regular production car then that would be different. Allthough if it were me I would still be qualifying anyone who test drove it. There's too many people out there who think test driving cars is like browsing at Wal-Mart.

I don't know what its like where you are, but here you can't test drive a 350Z at Nissan, you can't walk in to Chev and drive a Corvette, you can't test drive an S2000 at Honda etc.....

I don't think its unreasonable with a limited production car like this that you should have your mind 95% made up before you drive it. If you can't do that then its probably not the car for you.
 
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My dealer has 7 MS6's in stock as of last nite. I had my test drive(rockon) Mazda of Bedford (Cleve, OH)

367 (mp3yellow
 
if a dealer won't let me test drive a car that I am interested in, I walk out. I will take that as a direct indication of what getting service will be like down the road. Now I would understand if I was in asking for every car all the time, but I don't test drive something I'm not going to buy so I don't ask very often. Here, it's a small town, everyone knows everybody scenario, so it's not like I was a stranger off the road. In my case, the few people left after the dealer buyout did know I wanted the car, so they should have known i was serious, especially since I told the old people/owner that I wanted to order one ( this is before the delay back in April). Just that the new Manager was probably being a prick. That is all right, if it was him, he's about to get a wake up call.
 
I been to most dealerships and the most difficult one was dodge and the SRT-4. A whole 2 days of "I have the money can I test drive" got old especialy when they had the for sale contract in front of me to sign before I testdrive it! My friend who was there when I got turned down went to mazda with a photcopy of his drivers license extention and was sideways out the lot in a RX-8 in a matter of minutes. Same dealership has a demo speed 6. If you go in with 4 of your friends then theres a chance they might assume you just wanna beat up on a car to kill time and stunt in front of your friends.
 
i got a test drive in a MS6 today.... not much hassle at all, except afterward dude was holding me up and actually brought out the 'numbers sheet', i'm like HELL NO and bolted.
 
Da 6 said:
I been to most dealerships and the most difficult one was dodge and the SRT-4. A whole 2 days of "I have the money can I test drive" got old especialy when they had the for sale contract in front of me to sign before I testdrive it! My friend who was there when I got turned down went to mazda with a photcopy of his drivers license extention and was sideways out the lot in a RX-8 in a matter of minutes. Same dealership has a demo speed 6. If you go in with 4 of your friends then theres a chance they might assume you just wanna beat up on a car to kill time and stunt in front of your friends.

Before I leased the MSP I tried to test-drive the SRT-4. They said that I couldn't test drive it unless I put a $1000 DP on it since every kid wanted to test the car and then not buy it (I was 33 at the time). I said, "I won't buy a car that I can't test drive" and then walked out of the dealership never to return...well not actually. I did return once....driving the MSP so that I could show the saleman how he lost a potential sale.

R
 
I've already made my point on the limited numbers. No one wants to comment on buying the one with the demo miles at full price so its a dead issue. Rainman and Newf are qualified customers who already had their minds 90% made up, they deserve preferential treatment. Its also different in the US if they have 10 of them sitting there.

Anyway Lip, I"m not an auto dealer, I just no alot of people in the business at all levels. You are whats refered to as a "professional test driver". I would guess every salesman at every dealer in your area knows who you are. Its doubtful there would be a salesman in the showromm for you to laugh at before you walk out because they probably all scatter when you drive up. They know you are there to waste someone's time driving a car you have no interest in buying. You probably read about a new car and then figure you should go try one out, even though you have no intention of buying one.

Guess what? Those demo cars cost dealers money. They are there for "REAL" potential customers, not professional test drivers. The salesman work for commission and don't want there time wasted buy some chain puller who goes around driving cars he's not in the market for.

What does it feel like to have everyone running for cover when you walk in somewhere, so they don't have to waste there time with you?

Thank you for all 3 of your very productive posts on this forum.(loser)
 
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