MazdaSpeed 3 in the news?

[CharlieDigital]

http://money.cnn.com/2003/12/22/pf/autos/mag0401_mazdaspeed_miata/

Don't know if this is old news or not. Check midways through the article. Speed 3 in early 2k5 with the Speed 6 following.

 

[jersey_emt]

That info's been posted a few times before....i guess we can only wait, and hope......

 

[CharlieDigital]

i guess we can only wait, and hope......

Tell me about it. I'm torn between the 3, the TSX and the G35s. If the 3 was 200 HP+, I wouldn't even hesitate. Personal preference for small, light cars, but man, if this car had even 40 more HP, it would just own.

 

[Dre]

You're confused between the 3, the TSX, and the G35s? Yea, I'd say you're confused alright!

If you can afford a G35, get that. Unless of course you're not looking for a luxury sedan. The G35 is in a different class my friend. Not the same kind of vehicle at all. As for the TSX, well I guess you'll just have to try it and compare it to the 3. I personally don't like the TSX, even with the extra horsepower. Besides, the TSX also isn't in the same class as the 3.

I think you have to determine what you're looking for in a car before debating between different models. It'll be easier that way.

 

[Excitmnt94]

yeah...im considering getting either a Porsche Boxter S or a Hummer H2.

ummm...no.
but seriously...totally different classes of cars. i agree...if you can afford the G35...the choice is obvious.

 

[speedmaster]

If that is true....

240 hp, turbo, in a 3? I will be losing money but trading my 3 for the speed version as soon as it is advertised.... UAU, 240hp? Can't wait. can't wait... (outie)

 

[shaggin'wagon]

me too on the three

i too would trade in my 3 week old 3 for a MAZDA3 Speed in a heart beat, i would lose some money but i would make that up in SPEED!!!!!!!!!!!!! 240 hp would be CRAZY!!! even 200hp would help!! so many possibilities with the turbo!!!!!
shag' (wink)

 

[sonik]

I just wish it was more HP without a turbo....turbolag sux!!!!

 

[Excitmnt94]

yes...turbolag does suck. however, chances are the car will have a small sized turbo if the power is only going to be boosted up to 200HP. with such a small turbo, lag will be minimized...possibly almost un-noticeable. bring on the turbo!

 

[sonik]

yes...turbolag does suck. however, chances are the car will have a small sized turbo if the power is only going to be boosted up to 200HP. with such a small turbo, lag will be minimized...possibly almost un-noticeable. bring on the turbo!

I still prefer all motor. I like lots of low end torque for scooting around town.

 

[03MSP]

MSP's have a good amount of low end torque

 

[ards]

This is one speed to wait.

 

[Dave2521]

Yeah it most likely will be a good one to wait for, sucks that i already bought my 3 though. Cause when it comes out i dont think ill have too much paid off on it so my trade value will not be that good. But thats ok, i might wait a year after the Mazdaspeed 3 comes out, to get reviews on it and what not. Althought for a first year car the 3 is a damn good car for its value IMO.

 

[Excitmnt94]

I still prefer all motor. I like lots of low end torque for scooting around town.

out of curiosity...what kind of car do you drive?

one of the main advantages to a small turbo is the instant-on power i was referring to. little turbos also create gobs of low-end torque. my lil GTI puts out 174 ft/lbs from 1950 RPM on. that is plenty of torque for scooting around town in a car that weighs just 2950. its all about matching the right sized turbo to the car for what you want. if your only expirence is an aftermarket turbo-kit on a civic that is built for high-boost, then yes...you will expirience A LOT of lag.

 

[sonik]

out of curiosity...what kind of car do you drive?

one of the main advantages to a small turbo is the instant-on power i was referring to. little turbos also create gobs of low-end torque. my lil GTI puts out 174 ft/lbs from 1950 RPM on. that is plenty of torque for scooting around town in a car that weighs just 2950. its all about matching the right sized turbo to the car for what you want. if your only expirence is an aftermarket turbo-kit on a civic that is built for high-boost, then yes...you will expirience A LOT of lag.

I just have yet to to drive a car with a turbo that I liked. I don't claim to know everything...but I have yet to like any turbo... Even my buddies turbo TT.... I like something with a lot of torque like the spec V. I don't own one because I have heard some horror stories about reliability but as far as fun to drive I gotta say that car is what I like. If I could have that torque with the handling of a Protege then well... I would be a happy camper!!! I own a protege currently..it has been a great car but I want something with more zoom zoom. So I am researching cars to purchase. I drove a Lancer Ralliart yesterday. Pretty impressive but I am waiting to see what the mazdaspeed3 brings. I will give it a chance but I really doubt I will like it as far as the turbo thing goes. However I might just be pleasantly suprised.....

 

[Excitmnt94]

the Audi TT with the 225HP 1.8T engine has lag issues. the reason is because they unfornuately decided to run dual side-mount intercoolers when they upgraded the turbo from the KO3 sport to the KO4. the allows for pressure drop and there is a huge amount of intercooler piping vs. the GTI 1.8T. all that tubing leads to some lag.

The Spec-V's and SE-R's? yeah...they perform really well. i auto-x a lot and they are almost always at the top or near the top of DS and STS. i never did drive one when i was considering cars to purchase because they just seemed cheap looking to me. the interior was tacky...but the car does well as an enthusiasts car.

since i purchased a new car i haven't been out and about looking/diving anything recently. i read a little bit about the ralliart lancer and it seemed to have a decently torquey engine and fair underpinnings.

i feel your pain about wanting more speed...my last car left me begging for more in a straight line. not only that...it couldn't handle corners either...it was pretty much the perfect first car i guess. i really couldn't get in any trouble with it. that being said...at least you have something to be happy about with the protege. i mean...at least you can tackle the twisties well. and i understand you not wanting to commit your money until the ideal combination comes out. hopefully...the MazdaSpeed 3 will be that car.

 

[TheMirror]

Take it from a current WRX owner, the last thing you want on the 3 is a big glop of turbo lag.....and corresponding cruddy low end torque. I drove a 3 hatch 5mt today. I'm seriously considering giving up 70+hp and 4wd from my lightly modded WRX in exchange for a car with good throttle response, power delivery, steering, ride, lateral grip, amenities, etc. etc. The lag on my WRX (and it is definitely sharper than stock, with cat-back, samco intercooler hoses, K&N drop in filter) is moderately bad, but low end torque is mid-80's 4cyl. Datsun pickup bad.
That being said, when I read it might have 200hp, that would be acceptable. That would hopefully mean a low-pressure 2.3L. If it ends up being a 240hp big boost 2.0, no thanks. Not even with 4wd.
-Mirror

 

[sonik]

the Audi TT with the 225HP 1.8T engine has lag issues. the reason is because they unfornuately decided to run dual side-mount intercoolers when they upgraded the turbo from the KO3 sport to the KO4. the allows for pressure drop and there is a huge amount of intercooler piping vs. the GTI 1.8T. all that tubing leads to some lag.

The Spec-V's and SE-R's? yeah...they perform really well. i auto-x a lot and they are almost always at the top or near the top of DS and STS. i never did drive one when i was considering cars to purchase because they just seemed cheap looking to me. the interior was tacky...but the car does well as an enthusiasts car.

since i purchased a new car i haven't been out and about looking/diving anything recently. i read a little bit about the ralliart lancer and it seemed to have a decently torquey engine and fair underpinnings.

i feel your pain about wanting more speed...my last car left me begging for more in a straight line. not only that...it couldn't handle corners either...it was pretty much the perfect first car i guess. i really couldn't get in any trouble with it. that being said...at least you have something to be happy about with the protege. i mean...at least you can tackle the twisties well. and i understand you not wanting to commit your money until the ideal combination comes out. hopefully...the MazdaSpeed 3 will be that car.

You hit it right on the head there... You should drive a Spec just to see. They are really fun..I mean REALLY fun.