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I've got a friend who is a Certified Mazda technician, I can lookup the TSB for your car or any info related to your car in the terms of repair or recall procedures.
 
I found some info on the 2.0 for the tribute.

Some 2001-02 Tributes equipped with a 2.0L engine and a manual transmission may exhibit a rolling idle condition in high ambient temperatures. This may be caused by the (PCM) Powertrain Control Module calibration. If normal diagnostics do not reveal a root cause, reprogram the PCM to tha latest calibration using WDS B18 and following the "Module Reprogramming Procedure. New PCM CAL P/N# 1U7A-12A650-ANA File Name: DVAN92U
 
MAZDA MSTR TECH,
Welcome. As you can tell this is a tough crowd but usually a fair one. Sorry, you were having to deflect sabot rounds.

Thank you for letting us know about MazdaSpeed's since some people are having trouble finding them. I would like one but it is 185 miles each way to get it serviced and that is not happening. But I am sure that there are people much nearer that may be able to take advantage of the information. I will just stick with the MP3 etc that I have.
 
01-004/03 2001-2003 PROTEGE/PROTEGE5 - RATTLING NOISE AT 1000-3000 RPM COLD ENGINE
APPLICABLE MODEL(S)/VINS
2001-2003 Protege (2.0L FS only)

2002-2003 Protege5

DESCRIPTION
Some customers may experience an engine rattle noise under light to moderate acceleration with engine coolant temperatures below 65 C (149 F) and engine RPMs between 1000 and 2900 RPM.

The noise is the result of the intentional swirl effect that is generated when the Variable Tumble Control System (VTCS) plates in the intake manifold are closed. Swirl accelerates the burn of the air/fuel mixture which reduces emissions when the engine is cold. The noise does not have a negative effect on the engine, and disappears as soon as coolant temperature reaches 65 C (149 F). There is a counter-measure to help reduce the noise in order to improve customer satisfaction.

Customers having this concern should have their vehicle repaired using one of the following procedures:

REPAIR PROCEDURE
Verify customer concern.

Check vehicle VIN range:

From VIN JM1BJ2***1*400001 to JM1BJ2***2*551281, go to step 3.

From VIN JM1BJ2***2*551282 to JM1BJ2***3*644493, go to step 4.

Replace the VTCS delay valve, then proceed to step 4.

Reprogram the PCM using WDS (Version B22 or later), verify the correct calibration from the table below:

Year/Tranmssion

File Name

New Calibration P/N


2001 MTX

DXAGBT0

1L2U-AA


2001 ATX

DXAGAS0

1L2U-BA


2002 MTX

QKMABB0

2ALU-EA


2002 MTX

QKMABB0

2ALU-EA


2002 ATX

QKAABA0

2ALU-FA


2002 ATX

QKAABA0

2ALU-FA


2002 ATX

QKBA7A0

2ALU-GA


2003 MTX

QOAMCB0

3ALU-JB


2003 ATX

QOAADA0

3ALU-KB


2003 ATX

QOAB8C0

3ALU-LB




Install revised PCM calibration sticker (9999-95-AMDC 97 available through MStore) in appropriate position (next to vehicle emissions label) with the calibration P/N provided in the table above.

Verify repair.

PART(S) INFORMATION

Part Number

Description

Qty.

Notes


N23613980A

Delay Valve

1

Application:

All 2001 Model Year

&

2002 model year built on and before November 5, 2001



WARRANTY INFORMATION
NOTE: This information applies to verified customer complaints on vehicles covered under normal warranty. Refer to the SRT microfiche for warranty term information.


Delay Valve Replacement and PCM Reprogram
Warranty Type

A


Symptom Code

82


Damage Code

9W


Part Number Main Cause

N236 13 980A


Quantity

1


Operation Number / Labor Hours:

XX444XR1 / 0.8



PCM Reprogram
Warranty Type

A


Symptom Code

82


Damage Code

9W


Part Number Main Cause

****18881


Quantity

0


Operation Number / Labor Hours:

XX444XR2 / 0.8
 
any word on what warrantied performance add-ons we can expect from mazdaspeed for our MSPs you two? or any timeframe?
 
Im a Senior Tech at Mazda Of Clear Lake. We have 2 black MSP's and one Orange one (i hope to get but dealer dickin me around on price). I have had pros and P5's with the same idle concern. What i did to correct it was reaclibrate the PCM and check the idle on the car with WDS. In one case I found that the idle was set bout 120 rpm lower that what it should be and the PCM did not adjust the IAC to conpensate for it, and i caused the car to stall while at operating temp. You might want to see if you dealer will look at this for ya and see what they can do. After i fixed the low idle on the one P5 never came back for a stall during deceleration and car idles fine from what i have seen from the LOF that i have done on it......

I feel for ya Maz mstr tech, i got jumped on too when i joined for well ummmm..... rather not say lol ;)
 
What needed to be recalibrated in the PCM to stop the idle problem?

I hope you do get he MSP so that when you make the complaint of the Clunk and squeels Mazda will have to pay more attention.

2 questions for you Techs:

1. How bad will adding the findanza flywheel, 2 Ibs less then stock, screw up the idle on deceleration? I have one and want to install it but don't want the car even worse.

2. Will drilling a small hole throught the middle of the throttle plate help the idle by giving the car a constant air stream?
 
Not sure what was calibrated, WDS has the calibrations stored and we are not able to read what is being calibrated to the pcm while we are performing it, so can't help ya there.

I don't think adding a flywheel that weighs less will affect your idle concern, I see lots of Pro's with light weight flywheels and have heard no complaints bout it, or maybe they have problems and don't want us to find out cause they think it might void their warranty :)

Do not drill in your throttle plate, you do this and then your in for a big headache. On ford based vehciles, (tribbute, b-series) they use what is called the sludge resistant throttle body. These are coated with a speical film that resists sludge and carbon build up. The throttle plate is sealed shut with a small hole to allow air to bypass the plate for idle. You try to clean the throttle body and the film is removed, the plate no longer is sealed shut and then you have idle concerns.

Be sure to either test your idle with an inductive pick up from the 1 plug wire and make sure that it is within spec. I don't like to rely on Tachs that much due to the fact that is a recreation of what the pcm see based off the CKP or CMP sensor that it uses to determine firing order, spark and duration so.......

I will look into idle problems on Monday when i go back to work. Right now I have a 98 pro that is having a ' shake-dead miss' at idle and i will see what i find and if it is similar to what you are experincing
 
MAZDA MSTR TECH said:
HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ON THIS IDLING PROBLEM AND HAVE HAD NO COMPLAINTS ON ANY IDLING PROBLEM BUT IF WE GET A CAR IM AND WE FIGURE SOMETHING OUT WILL BE SURE TO LET EVREYONE KNOW.

Were you able to test a car and replicate the problem?
 
It seems to me that he was just trying to sell cars. All that TTT crap. If he was just trying to help he needs to have a thicker skin.
 
By the way, for anyone in Florida. Fairbanks Mazda has 10, count 'em 10 MSPs in stock. 4 orange and 6 black.
 

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