Mazda Reflashed my ECU, Now I Am Not Getting a Black Tailpipe!

Just a quick review of the reflash:

IT IS JUST AWESOME! All the hesitations are gone, turbo lag is almost all gone. The car react much better to low RPM WOT. I dont know if the car is faster but it feel slightly better and seem to pull a little more after 5500 rpm. I will do a dyno pull soon in the next weeks. I'm confident we will see a difference with the first release software.

I recommend to complain about hesitation to your dealer so you get reflashed.
 
camrycev6 said:
M3_Zoom -- please let us know what you found out when you can.


camrycev6, I sure will. My appointment is tomorrow at 9:30 and as soon as I return home, I will post the details.
 
M3_Zoom said:
camrycev6, I sure will. My appointment is tomorrow at 9:30 and as soon as I return home, I will post the details.


YES YES YES Folks, there is a PCM ECM Update. I will save the best news for last. First, I would like to say unfortunately I DID NOT get all the information from my dealer as promissed and in no way fashion or form am I bashing Mazda or there products, but it's apparent each individual dealer has there own standards for customer service and satisfaction. Although my dealer did not come through with all the information, I was put in touch with a very very determined Mazdaspeed service department person elsewhere. I'm saying it in that fashion to protect this other dealerships best interest. Apparently what I gathered from our lengthy conversation is, it's more or less a slap in the face to any other dealer who tells you "No there is not an update" and you go back and say "we'll I just spoke to so and so at bla bla bla Mazda and he/she gave me the update information. Sadly sometimes people loose their jobs so I agreed to use the information provided only. It was a great trade off and agreement between us.

So here are the details:

If your Brakes are "Humming" while driving WITHOUT you depressing the brake pedal and the brakes are warmed up, you may have one or more problems and Mazda is aware. They will check, lubricate or replace brake parts as necessary. The caliper(s) are found to be dragging causing the "humming" noise thus results in front caliper(s), rotor(s) and brake pads to overheat and glaze. Some will be fixed by relubricating the caliper piston or total replacement of the caliper(s), front pads and resurfacing the rotors. They may even remove .2 - .4 off the rotor(s) which is no big deal and still keeps them within spec. Today my entire brake system was looked over to include the ABS and all was well. My car only has 250 miles on it, but it "hummed" the first 200 miles and then went away on it's own. My take was the brakes had a "rust" build up from sitting and not being driven. All cars do that plus all new cars need there brakes to be bedded in. The pads may have even been a bit thick, but I'm really babying my car the first few thousand miles waiting for the aftermarket world to take off.


Now, the PCM/ECM update re-flash, Purge/Swirl Valve replacement and the 3 different thrown CEL codes that start with "p" etc. are all THE SAME EXACT REFLASH!!! It is to address the driveability problem. There is a TSB, yes a TSB but it appears to only be visible to the Mazda Service Folk not the usual NHTSA TSB's etc. Why? I don't know, but I'm hoping to get that fixed because guess what? This re-flash is a Multi-Model update! That's right and here are the exact details you will need to get your car re-flashed:

Mazda TSB 01-046-06 "Multi-model PCM/ECM update for driveability problem."

It can be accessed a few different ways at your Mazda dealer. Either by the above TSB, by the service tech entering into the mconnects.com system (Mazda Support System) and entering DTC-2407 with your VIN# or lastly by the re-flash "File Update Name" SW-L34SEC000.

TSB 01-046-06 / DTC-2407 + VIN# / SW-L34SEC000: Address multi-model PCM/ECM update for driveability problem: p0001 & p2006, Engine Hesitation on Deceleration, Engine Hesitation on Acceleration (most really feel it in 3rd and 4th gear), Stall immediately after a cold start-up and is used upon Swirl Valve/Purge Valve replacement.


*Added note, the service tech I spoke to went into the Mazda Support System entered DTC-2407 and my VIN# and BAM, there it was. I will be calling tomorrow to schedule my appointment. Lasty, you don't need to have a CEL thrown to have this done, but you certainly need to have one of the above issues. Someone stated "just tell you dealer your CEL came on and wen't off." Great try but if you really have a CEL come on and go back out, it's stored in your PCM so when they hook your car up to the machine they can see what CEL was tripped.


Again, I'm here for all of us and to make our beasts, B-E-A-S-T-S!!! I wish I had a dyno at my disposal. I would do a pre and post flash dyno just to see the difference across the band. As the saying goes, the proof are in the numbers...

Happy Safe Motoring(drive2)
 
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M3_Zoom said:
YES YES YES Folks, there is a PCM ECM Update.

Also, my guess on the "multi-model" update would = MS6 & MS3

Lastly, those of you who get this re-flash completed, come back and let us know how your car is.
 
u wil stil get that...its a fossil fuel car......you cant expect a clean burn of anything unless its hydrogen...or green fuel.....
 
Japaneezy said:
so i have a sooty exhaust... i also have a cai on the way. will i be ok after that?

Japaneezy, as close561 stated you will never eliminate the black soot. The newer modern turbo'd cars are built on a "dumby proof" mind set, so they are often run rich vice lean on purpose. Just be thankful you have extra fuel and not enough. If you notice we can add several upgrades and the mention of new injectors has not even been addressed. For example my prior SRT-4 had just as much soot on the exhaust tips in stock form as our MS3's. When I added the Stage 2 kit from Mopar, it came with bigger injectors and the soot got worse. The key is to keep the A/F at 11.5 and all will be well, but until you are running more than an CAI intake and a turbo back exhaust I would not be concerned. In time we will get this beast figured out. Every newly manufactured car like this goes through headaches when they first come out. I was so frustrated with my SRT-4 when it first came out, I almost sold it after just owning it a few months. I had a few prior turbo'd DSM's and things drastically changed with the SRT-4 and certainly threw me for a technology change. Anyhow, I'm getting off topic so if your only worry is the black soot and you think it might be running way to rich, take it in. The worst thing they can do is complete the update re-flash and go from there.
 
So glad to hear this was finally resolved! Thanks to everyone (especially you M3_Zoom) for all of your hard work.

Now...since I am not having any of the issues mentioned in the fix, I guess the question is do I have it done anyway.... hmmm....
 
I have my car in right now. They are looking to see if one is available. I'll report back with what they say.
 
camrycev6 said:
So glad to hear this was finally resolved! Thanks to everyone (especially you M3_Zoom) for all of your hard work.

Now...since I am not having any of the issues mentioned in the fix, I guess the question is do I have it done anyway.... hmmm....


camrycev6, I understand what your saying and the re-flash is there is case you need it. If you find your having issues, print the information out and schedule yourself a re-flash.
 
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M3_Zoom said:
camrycev6, I understand what your saying and the re-flash is there is case you need it. If you find your having issues, print the information out and schedule yourself a re-flash.

That was the first thing I did! I have the info filed so I am ready to go. I am going to call my dealer just for fun to see what they say about it. I can't help but be annoyed at the misinformation Mazda is providing to a large amount of customers. That letter to Mazda corporate is almost ready too...
 
camrycev6 said:
That was the first thing I did! I have the info filed so I am ready to go. I am going to call my dealer just for fun to see what they say about it. I can't help but be annoyed at the misinformation Mazda is providing to a large amount of customers. That letter to Mazda corporate is almost ready too...

What's bad, the person that helped me out had to really search to find it because unless you know where to look or individually punch it in, the average service tech can't see it. Why? I'm not in position to answer but it needs to be addressed. Lip service is free anytime anywhere, but I could tell that this person was serious about providing me the information and helping us all out. The "help me help you" mentality. They have completed a few of these update re-flashes with positive feedback and they also complete the re-flash to all the new cars that come into their inventory. I hate to say it but If a dealer says no or questions it, oh boy... I doubt they will but like I already said, it's not Mazda or their products, it's the individual dealer that sets there own tone for customer satisfaction. I can't wait to see what Swampass has to say because his dealer is taking a look at it today.
 
This is interesting. My dealer is refusing to do the upgrade because he says now:

There are two TSBs for MS3...

One is for the p2006 issue and the other is for cold start problems.

In other words, he is unaware of a TSB for accleration issues. He says unless he can find it, they won't reflash my car.

How crazy is this? I am still on hold with him. I am trying to explain it and have virtually read the enire post from M3_zoom...
 
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