Mazda Reflashed my ECU, Now I Am Not Getting a Black Tailpipe!

Champloo said:
I took my speed3 in yesterday because the cd changer crapped out on me and also told them I wanted to get the reflash if it was available. They knew exactly what I was talking about, checked my car and gave me a printout of all the 2007 updates from Mazda N.A.
Here's the lowdown about DTC-2407:
The latest models have the most up-to-date version on their PCM. The only Mazda3 models that would need the reflash are:
(CA spec) with VINs lower than JM1BK****71635356 (produced before 9/6/06)
and
(Fed spec) with VINs lower than JM1BK****71618119 (produced before 8/1/06)

If you have a VIN higher than these, then you're good to go!

I hope that this clears the issue up for everyone. We should all have our Mazdas running in top condition and it's sad that a lot of dealers are all about the sale and not about the service.


Were any MS3 built before 8/1/06? I guess I need to take a look at mine.
 
SeanMSIII said:
Were any MS3 built before 8/1/06? I guess I need to take a look at mine.

I don't think so. I thought the first one's were 9/2006. I could be wrong but...
 
M3_Zoom said:
It sure would be nice if all dealers could get on board and make this happen. This is just a prime example of why some of us need to complain. Also, as I stated before the intentions/purpose of the re-flash is for "better" driveability, not to go faster. It eliminate hesitation, spikes etc. across the band. I'm just glad some of you have dealers willing to hook your cars up to the machine and check.

Secondly, what this also tells me is the information I have posted from my unnamed source is correct. (thumb) I had no doubts when they called me back long distance and spoke to me for over an hour.

Ahhhh...(strike) Hey camrycev6 any luck?

I personally have not experienced any driveability issues, but again my main purpose for the push on this is to help those that do have issues.


Thanks again for everything Zoom. I was able to confirm by my VIN that I did not need the upgrade. (Which explains why I am not experiencing any problems.) My last 4 are 8271.

Thanks to everyone who worked so hard to get this resolved. We certainly have done more work than Mazda!!! It was good to see us coming together to get this sorted out.
 
camrycev6 said:
Thanks again for everything Zoom. I was able to confirm by my VIN that I did not need the upgrade. (Which explains why I am not experiencing any problems.) My last 4 are 8271.

Thanks to everyone who worked so hard to get this resolved. We certainly have done more work than Mazda!!! It was good to see us coming together to get this sorted out.


Hey camrycev6, we can't figure these beasts out on our own so for you and all those who posted helpful information, THANK YOU!

Now here is the funny part, certain dealers are still claiming they know nothing about it and the TSB attachment I posted, only shows up in there system not on the NHTSA website. That's my next fix.

:D
 
Comment from OP

To EVERYONE who participated in this, a very big thank you! As was stated before, we HAVE to stick together to get through these problems.

Bravo!

Now, lets go drive! (drive2)
 
M3_Zoom said:
voiceKoil,did you get your swirl valve replaced? If so, how is your car driving now? Did it include a re-flash?


Yes they replaced that, I asked if they did a reflash and they looked at me like I was crazy and said no. I honestly havent looked at the work order to remember exactly what was done (I know it takes 2 secs to do) but its driving great, and it wasnt just the swirl valve! The only thing I dont understand is now its really puttin out the carbon, I was flooring it on the freeway and had so much black smoke coming out that it caught my attention in my rearveiw. Needless to say I drove from my dealer to my house (half hour drive) and the tailpipe was pitch black, I cleaned it before I left the dealer. So I dont know what the hell to say..... My cars driving good with no CELs now though, and better mpg, but black tip still. I guess Im happy.
 
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Champloo said:
I took my speed3 in yesterday because the cd changer crapped out on me and also told them I wanted to get the reflash if it was available. They knew exactly what I was talking about, checked my car and gave me a printout of all the 2007 updates from Mazda N.A.
Here's the lowdown about DTC-2407:
The latest models have the most up-to-date version on their PCM. The only Mazda3 models that would need the reflash are:
(CA spec) with VINs lower than JM1BK****71635356 (produced before 9/6/06)
and
(Fed spec) with VINs lower than JM1BK****71618119 (produced before 8/1/06)

If you have a VIN higher than these, then you're good to go!

I hope that this clears the issue up for everyone. We should all have our Mazdas running in top condition and it's sad that a lot of dealers are all about the sale and not about the service.

Mines right in the middle, jm1bk****71627*** So I guess my dealers just unaware of a reflash (or B.Sin me), Ive been there 3 times about it and wasnt the nicest about some of the things, I gotta look into it, besides my ipod adapter stopped working so theres another reason to go up to the dealer
 
Going in to the dealer today to replace my 1500 mile factory oil with some good synthetic.

I wrote down all of the TSB/reflash information and will try to get them to take care of this for me while I"m there.

I have been getting clouds of black smoke when I floor it, am averaging well under 20 mpg's, highest achieved was 23 mpg's on a long freeway trip with very little hard driving, and the other day I got on it and the car just bogged so bad that it felt like there was a rope tied to the car and to a wall... it bogged so hard I got thrown forward and the seatbelt locked and caught me.

So... hopefully they can fix this....
 
bast525 said:
Going in to the dealer today to replace my 1500 mile factory oil with some good synthetic.

I wrote down all of the TSB/reflash information and will try to get them to take care of this for me while I"m there.

I have been getting clouds of black smoke when I floor it, am averaging well under 20 mpg's, highest achieved was 23 mpg's on a long freeway trip with very little hard driving, and the other day I got on it and the car just bogged so bad that it felt like there was a rope tied to the car and to a wall... it bogged so hard I got thrown forward and the seatbelt locked and caught me.

So... hopefully they can fix this....

bast525, where in line does your VIN# fall from the previous post? Also remember the re-flash is not designed to eliminate the black soot, it's for driveability issues. Now, yes you're certainly experiencing that with the bogging down etc. Did you print the Adobe file I posted a few posts back? If you take that along with the other posted information to the dealer, they will have a hard time saying no unless there already onboard with the issues. Lastly you should be getting better than 23 MPG on the highway. I only have ~300 miles on my car and I get 26.5 / 27 with mixed Highway & City driving. We'll atleast that's what my onboard trip computer states and most cars go up a few MPG as the engine breaks in, which would put me right at the advertised 28MPG etc.

Let us know what they do for you.
 
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alien1979 said:
On second thought, here is the first page of the workorder with my personal info blanked out. Wouldnt want any of you to think I was lying or anything....(fight)

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woooohoooo.... THANK YOU! I took this to my dealer today. When I asked about an update based on high carbon on the exhaust - NADA. I showed them your work-order and there is a "diveability" update they ran today. No night/day difference, however much smoother power delivery. I'll have to see how it is on a "cold" start tomorrow when leaving the house, but I think the hiccups will be gone. [Borat]High-FIVE[\Borat](thumb)
 
chuci said:
woooohoooo.... THANK YOU! I took this to my dealer today. When I asked about an update based on high carbon on the exhaust - NADA. I showed them your work-order and there is a "diveability" update they ran today. No night/day difference, however much smoother power delivery. I'll have to see how it is on a "cold" start tomorrow when leaving the house, but I think the hiccups will be gone. [Borat]High-FIVE[\Borat](thumb)


Nice! It shouldn't be to much longer before all dealers are on board. Let us know how the cold starts are...
 
Okay I went to the dealer with all of the info posted a few pages back... the tech was being very helpful and open minded. I gave him the numbers for this TSB and he was able to look it up. He connected my car to the computer and it indicated that my car already had the most up to date software.

Also, apparently my VIN number does not fall within the range specified by this TSB.

Odd since I seem to have the problems people have mentioned above... black soot, black smoke on hard accel, bad gas mileage, hesitation at odd times.

The production date on my car is 12/06, for what that's worth, but I dont' have the VIN handy.

But yeah... this guy was being very helpful so I don't doubt when he tells me that my car already has this updated software in it.

Ah well at least now I know :D
 
M3_Zoom said:
Nice! It shouldn't be to much longer before all dealers are on board. Let us know how the cold starts are...
muuuuuuucccchhhhh better ;) Car runs great even when not up to temp. I haven't cleaned the exhaust tip, so not sure if a/f has been improved.
 
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