Mazda does it! 274HP 2.3L

[Glenn3s]

Hi all. In the latest Car and Driver, there's a test of a Mazda 6 with a
2.3 liter turboed engine factory-rated at 274HP.

Now all we need is for them to offer it in a 3s, and get rid of the extra load
that it has to carry around in a 6. Anybody know what Mazda site to send
requests to?

Glenn

 

[I_Vtec]

Holy crap there's a turbo 2.3L

Guys come look at this. How did we miss it?

 

[cbcbd]

Holy crap there's a turbo 2.3L

Guys come look at this. How did we miss it?

 

[Micah]

until I see a scan, I think he's confused with the MS6

 

[prlinding]

mazda does it half ass....thats what it should say....sorry

 

[briand805]

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=19&article_id=9022&page_number=1

this it?

 

[peepsalot]

top mount intercooler + "The design team scorned a hood scoop"

is anyone else disturbed by this?

 

[FrigginGLI]

Skip this car and wait for the mazda speed 3.

 

[txrxs]

i have a feeling it's not going to sell as well as was once believed.

 

[Badger Biker]

I want that engine in my car.

now.

 

[Glenn3s]

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=19&article_id=9022&page_number=1

this it?

Yup, that's it. And excuse me for not including the "Speed" between
Mazda and 6. 274 HP speaks for itself, call the car whatever you want.

 

[FrigginGLI]

i have a feeling it's not going to sell as well as was once believed.

I smell mazda speed miata part deux.

 

[goldwing2000]

I smell mazda speed miata part deux.

What a let-down that was, eh? It gained a whole... what? 36 hp? From a turbo?? For $1000? That's just sad.

A 114 hp jump is definitely going to make more waves. I'll keep my fingers crossed but I ain't gonna hold my breath.

 

[eting_pro5]

56 hp increase

 

[FrigginGLI]

And an added weight of about 300lbs.

 

[Micah]

plus the drivetrain loss in AWD

 

[goldwing2000]

56 hp increase

274-160=114 (scratch)

Even says so in the article:

The force-fed engine delivers its increased output (114 more horsepower than the naturally aspirated four, 54 more than the 6's optional 3.0-liter V-6) through a slick new Aisin six-speed manual gearbox to Mazda's equally new Active Torque Split All-Wheel Drive.

 

[goldwing2000]

Or did you mean the Miata? Cuz that's 142 hp on the LS and 178 hp on the MS.

178-142=36

 

[FrigginGLI]

274-160=114 (scratch)

Even says so in the article:

Was comparing v-6 mazda 6 to the 2.3 turbo. 220 hp vs 274, but the 274 hp has another 300lbs on it.

 

[Micah]

Yeah, I wonder the same thing FWD with 220HP n/a vs. AWD with 274HP. Even if the cars weighed the same, off the line, it might be close. Not to mention that launching with AWD is tricky (or so I'm told). Factor in the additional weight of the car, and things don't look too good.

Still, the suspension has been tightened as well, but it looks like the stock rubber is a major hinderance to the car's handling characteristics. It looks like this car will be sold to people that are going to be more informed than the dealer - i.e., the dealer will not be upselling the car from the lower models. The MSP had a nice bump in horsepower over stock and didn't weigh much more. Handling and braking are still going to be improved significantly. All the reviews I have seen mention that the car hasn't been tested in it's final state, but I doubt there will be any changes to HP/Torque. Perhaps the second year. Maybe they will opt to go for a wider tire? Again - I doubt it.