looks like a MS3 FMIC soon to come

Hey, that's a good idea! Turn the ram air ducting originally for the TMIC into ram air ducting for a giant air filter.

I think a FMIC is going to be my first major modification...
 
its not worth it to us to get the fmic, no room unless u loose front bumber otherwise its pointless, go w/ a bigger top mount w/ a bigger core
 
its not worth it to us to get the fmic, no room unless u loose front bumber otherwise its pointless, go w/ a bigger top mount w/ a bigger core

I agree with that...plus look at all that piping...with the TMIC you have th advantage of very little lag...I am going to agree with the bigger TMIC is better theory.
 
between the bigger tmic's available and methanol injection there isnt a need to do a fmic untill your talking 500-600+HP, and like others have said then you have to deal with all the piping and a little more lag. Not saying it isnt a good deisgn from corksport, just not needed unless you have huge hp intentions.
 
between the bigger tmic's available and methanol injection there isnt a need to do a fmic untill your talking 500-600+HP, and like others have said then you have to deal with all the piping and a little more lag. Not saying it isnt a good deisgn from corksport, just not needed unless you have huge hp intentions.

You said what i was thinking...big TMIC and meth injection will get you very far
 
Lags Not That Bad Wit A Front Mount As Ever Makes It Out To Be! I Personaly Have Done 2 In The Past Year And Its Not That Noticalbe! On The V-dubs I Did, We Lost Like .5 Lb To 1lb Of Boost And U Cant Notice It! And Te Cooler Air Makes Up For That Loss! Jsut A Thoght


I Think It Looks Kool!

And U Dont Lose Ur Bumper! U Might Have To Modify It And/or Get Rid Of The Bumper Reinforcment!(or Modify It All And Keep It Safe)

Just A Thought From A Body Man
 
Front Mount is to advertise, " Hey everyone, i have a turbo! " but is not anymore efficient than the bigger core TMIC's. The cost alone will not benefit the power. As pointed out, the Meth is the biggest bang for the buck. Another thing to look at is how the blow off valve location has changed and that you're dealing with another mass air meter tuning problem once you goto a standback setup. No thanks, ill pass.
 
Lags Not That Bad Wit A Front Mount As Ever Makes It Out To Be! I Personaly Have Done 2 In The Past Year And Its Not That Noticalbe! On The V-dubs I Did, We Lost Like .5 Lb To 1lb Of Boost And U Cant Notice It! And Te Cooler Air Makes Up For That Loss! Jsut A Thoght


I Think It Looks Kool!

And U Dont Lose Ur Bumper! U Might Have To Modify It And/or Get Rid Of The Bumper Reinforcment!(or Modify It All And Keep It Safe)

Just A Thought From A Body Man


How bought learning grammar and taking off the caps lock captain america...
 
Yeah like said above a fmic is useless unless you plan to have huge hp, even getting a top mount intercooler with a larger core really isnt necessary a 3" or 3.25" can handle plenty of power you dont need a 3.5" intercooler thats just going to rub when your motor rocks back and forth. Bigger doesnt mean better always
 
honestly it depends on where your going with your horsepower numbers, id say anything under 400 the stock tmic plus meth will work, 400-500 will also need the bigger core to be truly efficient and maybe 500+ to 600+ can use the FMIC....there is a setup that works for everyones plans, you just have to take a look at your projected or desired numbers and plan accordingly.
 
the intercooler piping looks pretty small in diameter, like around 2" or 2.25" for most of it. hard to tell really. but even with all that piping, you're not going to see much of a noticeable difference in lag and throttle response because the stock turbo is well, small and responsive. heck, in stock form, it's already a 1/4 blip of the throttle away from full boost it seems.

it looks like a quality kit esp with the shiny piping and i love the way they integrated the intake filter in there. genius! i do think the BOV location could have remained a tad closer to stock, you would almost think with a setup like that, that you could just put the MAFs housing in the hot pipe and have the BOV nearer the turbo outlet and just run blow-through MAFs. there is plenty of straight pipe on that hotpipe to allow for it too without causing turbulent MAFs readings.

the biggest thing with the TMIC is the heat soak, which is only gonna be a big deal if you're doing something slower like autocrossing, but it seems I've seen alot of speed 3's doing auto-x and havn't heard any complaints about heat soak...but i'd like to see some tests maybe on temps. plus it would depend upon the courses, some of the miata courses down here are super tight and stay in very low speeds, not allowing alot of airflow to the TMIC, where other courses are more open and have some straights or faster areas to get some flow going.

in the end, i love the kit, but i'm going to stick with my TMIC (or an upgrade in the future). i've never used meth before, but that could be an option as well.

plus i love the sleeper status with the stock speed 3 setup - no FMIC, no SMIC in the side of the bumper, no suby-style hood scoop.
 
have any of you ever opened your hood after driving in the rain ??
i have and my TMIC gets soaked !! if you drive at freeway speeds in the rain LOTS of water gets up in that area. guess where all that water will end up with this set-up ?! no thanks !
 
have any of you ever opened your hood after driving in the rain ??
i have and my TMIC gets soaked !! if you drive at freeway speeds in the rain LOTS of water gets up in that area. guess where all that water will end up with this set-up ?! no thanks !

I have opened my hood after driving in the rain.
I use a shop towel to wipe the small amount of water that gets in there after the touchless car washes (the ones that spray water directly into the front end). It's only an issue if one is too lazy to get out of the car and pop the hood.

No problems to date with driving in the rain here in OR/WA
 
it not lazy if you are driving in the rain and suck up too much water and hydo lock !! i would not buy this for the simple reason of where the filter is placed .
 
Do y'all think there would be any head soak issues with the air intake on top of the engine like that? It would kind of be the anti-cold air intake at that point right?

A FMIC will virtually eliminate heat soak right? Wont this change alone make the car more consistent? I think I'd prefer consistent lag over inconsistent cooling.
 
it not lazy if you are driving in the rain and suck up too much water and hydo lock !! i would not buy this for the simple reason of where the filter is placed .

The lazy comment was included for the car wash scenario as that is the only time I have gotten anything more than a mist in the ducts. Who would suggest pulling over to wipe water from the intake repeatedly while driving? (screwy). My sarcasm is not a personal attack.

Personally I can't imagine a scenario in which I hydro lock my car with this set up unless I do it purposely. The FMIC has been on for 5 months now. Maybe Illinois has bigger rain than we do, I don't know. It reminds me of the threads about hydro lock with the various intakes on other cars and I have yet to hear it happened.

Each his own though. You and Bobby have your prerogative.
cheers.
 

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