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they have just found nerve agents...where have you been?
liberals get a pat on the back for this....
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hmm. after a quick search, the only article I came up with was this.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,108785,00.html
or perhaps you were referring to the original story from the 11th..
http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/special_packages/headlines/7680913.htm
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,108785,00.html
or perhaps you were referring to the original story from the 11th..
http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/special_packages/headlines/7680913.htm
i have always been agains the war for the simple reason that inocent people were going to die at american hands to furfill some ignorant texans personal agenda. don't try to give me s*** about liberating iraqis. its bulls*** and everyone knows it. if our government was so concerned about liberating opressed people why haven't the marched on into africa or south america. a good start would be mexico or even washington DC. i don't identify with the people on the video for the most part. majority of them are just yupie bastards who know s*** about global politics. however i stil stand against the war and this government.
<=== Lefter than left till the day i die!
<=== Lefter than left till the day i die!
DigitalDuality
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solar6 said:
I think that's a rather fallible arguement. Republicans and conservatives aren't shielded from stupidity or intelligence any more than the other. I don't necessarily agree with Chomsky, but he seems to bring a level of education and study to political commentary that most republicans don't, doesn't that mean all liberals are smart b/c he is? no. Does it mean there's not republican smarter than him? no. Does it mean he's always right? no.
And to think so is a fallible generalization that boils down to the same mentality and fallacies of racism. Being republican doesn't make you smart, neither does being centrist or liberal.
Righteousness complexes are fucken retarded. Why play this game about "my side is better than your side".. its childish bulls***.
oooooooook, i guess my expirences with liberals means that i can not make that statement? ive talked to liberals, who have gotten a child credit check. they gladly took the check, but then flamed the hell out of him for cutting taxes. ????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why b**** when you benefited?
how many riots have you seen at "pro-war" rallies? none that i can remember. how many at "anti-war" rallies? i can remember a few. so your at an "anti-war" rally and commiting vandalism, attacking cops, and for peace? sounds like BS to me. its a total hipocrital act for what you are protesting. that video alone should be enough proof as too how knowledgable most liberals are. ive been keeping tabs on the democratic canidates, and the only one that i would even think about voting for would be liberman. he is the only one that hasnt changed his story 100 times like the rest of them have.
how many riots have you seen at "pro-war" rallies? none that i can remember. how many at "anti-war" rallies? i can remember a few. so your at an "anti-war" rally and commiting vandalism, attacking cops, and for peace? sounds like BS to me. its a total hipocrital act for what you are protesting. that video alone should be enough proof as too how knowledgable most liberals are. ive been keeping tabs on the democratic canidates, and the only one that i would even think about voting for would be liberman. he is the only one that hasnt changed his story 100 times like the rest of them have.
DigitalDuality
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and how many people outside the 10commandments protesting had more than a high school education? (mind you Alabama is largely a conservative state AND has the lowest rate of education in the country)
how intelligent is it to blow up an abortion clinic b/c you think "killing is wrong" (just as dumb as riots at an anti-war rally it sounds like..except riots aren't exactly premeditated murder)
The intelligence surrounding "preemptive strikes" is a wonderful theory too...
Danny boy, Bush Sr's, VP.. he's a smart cookie, and Bush couldn't have named any world leaders his first fucken year in office. I think this quote matches Bush nicely
Or how about the protests that went on in GA to ENSURE that the public school system (mind you this was 2 years ago) paid for 2 proms... because they still believed in segregation!? (i'll find the link if you'd like)
Kennesaw GA, by law requires every citizen to have a gun. That's about as dumb as banning guns, hell i'd say moreso.
How intelligent is it to base every arguement about how EVERYONE should be governed based off your particular tradition or faith that not everyone might share, and b/c of that faith/tradition, you can't compile a logical arguement to back up while you think something should be the way it is. That's religious right conservatism at its most frequent and its finest.
Yes there are some stupid environmentalists, feminists, gay rights activits, democrats, etc... I've met quite a few. I've met some dumb assed conservatives too. We could spend all day giving news examples, or even more petty "personal" examples, but it doesn't prove s***.
And i'd hate to break this to you, liberals might have stupid ass groups that go too far like.. ACLU (which would be really useful if used objectively more often), ELF, DemocracyNow, MoveOn, etc.. But lets look at some conservative extreme groups? KKK, NAAWP, NRA (not an intelligent group..not attacking its members, there's a difference), Catholics who have a witness protection program for pedophile priests.. all these are groups within conservaitve america. Just as dumb and extreme as the above liberal groups..
No group has exclusive right to intelligence. I'm not trying to get into a pissing match with you about "who's smarter". I'm saying the whole arguement over "who's smarter" is void from the begining.
I'll list you a fucken moron right now, but pertaining to your subject matter in this quote. Michael Moore. One stupid liberal s*** who twists information around worse than Rush Limbaugh.
Michael Moore got that tax cut from Bush and benefitted from it. But you know what this dumb liberal did with his check? gave it to charity. He put his money where his mouth was.
Not every group of people can boil down to the actions of the ones you stumble across in your life.
Go to a trailer park, the majority of people there are conservative and/or republican. If they were oh so intelligent do you think they would've ended up there? Same goes for ghetto blacks/hispanics who tend to be more liberal due to racial impartiality of the two parties.
Republicans aren't something fucken high and mighty, neither are liberals, sorry to burst your bubble.
For every Michael Moore, there's an Ann Coulter, for every Rush Limbaugh, there's an Al Sharpton, for every Bill O'Rielly there's an Al Frankin. All of em.. libs and con, fucken morons who rely on twisting facts and spinning a point of view to appeal to a certain sect of society instead of attempting to be objective and logical.
by the way.. even if my arguement doesn't change your view on things, how would you "cookie cutter" classify a Liberal Republican? Or a conservative democrat?
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and about bush's tax cuts. I think at a different time period they'd be a great idea, regardless of who they favored. But you don't decrease your income while more than quadrupling your spending. Its simple economics.
Even Republicans/conservatives, and centrists, are predicting a big recession b/c of Bush's spending habits coupled with his theories on how to stimulate the economy. He spends twice as bad as any democrat, and he believes in a bigger government than any democrat.
how intelligent is it to blow up an abortion clinic b/c you think "killing is wrong" (just as dumb as riots at an anti-war rally it sounds like..except riots aren't exactly premeditated murder)
The intelligence surrounding "preemptive strikes" is a wonderful theory too...
Danny boy, Bush Sr's, VP.. he's a smart cookie, and Bush couldn't have named any world leaders his first fucken year in office. I think this quote matches Bush nicely
Or how about the protests that went on in GA to ENSURE that the public school system (mind you this was 2 years ago) paid for 2 proms... because they still believed in segregation!? (i'll find the link if you'd like)
Kennesaw GA, by law requires every citizen to have a gun. That's about as dumb as banning guns, hell i'd say moreso.
How intelligent is it to base every arguement about how EVERYONE should be governed based off your particular tradition or faith that not everyone might share, and b/c of that faith/tradition, you can't compile a logical arguement to back up while you think something should be the way it is. That's religious right conservatism at its most frequent and its finest.
Yes there are some stupid environmentalists, feminists, gay rights activits, democrats, etc... I've met quite a few. I've met some dumb assed conservatives too. We could spend all day giving news examples, or even more petty "personal" examples, but it doesn't prove s***.
And i'd hate to break this to you, liberals might have stupid ass groups that go too far like.. ACLU (which would be really useful if used objectively more often), ELF, DemocracyNow, MoveOn, etc.. But lets look at some conservative extreme groups? KKK, NAAWP, NRA (not an intelligent group..not attacking its members, there's a difference), Catholics who have a witness protection program for pedophile priests.. all these are groups within conservaitve america. Just as dumb and extreme as the above liberal groups..
No group has exclusive right to intelligence. I'm not trying to get into a pissing match with you about "who's smarter". I'm saying the whole arguement over "who's smarter" is void from the begining.
I'll list you a fucken moron right now, but pertaining to your subject matter in this quote. Michael Moore. One stupid liberal s*** who twists information around worse than Rush Limbaugh.
Michael Moore got that tax cut from Bush and benefitted from it. But you know what this dumb liberal did with his check? gave it to charity. He put his money where his mouth was.
Not every group of people can boil down to the actions of the ones you stumble across in your life.
Go to a trailer park, the majority of people there are conservative and/or republican. If they were oh so intelligent do you think they would've ended up there? Same goes for ghetto blacks/hispanics who tend to be more liberal due to racial impartiality of the two parties.
Republicans aren't something fucken high and mighty, neither are liberals, sorry to burst your bubble.
For every Michael Moore, there's an Ann Coulter, for every Rush Limbaugh, there's an Al Sharpton, for every Bill O'Rielly there's an Al Frankin. All of em.. libs and con, fucken morons who rely on twisting facts and spinning a point of view to appeal to a certain sect of society instead of attempting to be objective and logical.
by the way.. even if my arguement doesn't change your view on things, how would you "cookie cutter" classify a Liberal Republican? Or a conservative democrat?
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and about bush's tax cuts. I think at a different time period they'd be a great idea, regardless of who they favored. But you don't decrease your income while more than quadrupling your spending. Its simple economics.
Even Republicans/conservatives, and centrists, are predicting a big recession b/c of Bush's spending habits coupled with his theories on how to stimulate the economy. He spends twice as bad as any democrat, and he believes in a bigger government than any democrat.
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ok, this is where i dont even try to have an intellegent conversation with you. i scrolled down, caught a glimpse of you calling me a "******* moron", so whats the point? i didnt say you were a moron for your opinion did i? nope, you lowered this debate to childish levels, and thats where i step out.
DigitalDuality
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I was calling Michael Moore a moron, i've recieved so many personal attacks on this site, i'm not about to act like alot of other people do around here...
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dood, i dont give two s**** if your liberal or not. i have a ton of liberal friends. so they are not republican, doesnt mean i dont hang out with them 
i want a civil converstation. no matter what im not going to look at you any less than i see myself or anyone esle. ill reply later, right now i gotta jet.
i want a civil converstation. no matter what im not going to look at you any less than i see myself or anyone esle. ill reply later, right now i gotta jet.Those people are ******* retards. I consider myself a pretty liberal person but these people are just blindly following some ideal without any sense of what we were there for.
Yes I think we never should have gone to war the way we did. To think that we were going to war strictly for oil is about the most rediculous thing I've ever heard. For the amount of money we have spent on this war already we probably could have bought all the oil undergound in south america.
I don't consider myself learned on this kind of topic since I'm a scientist and debates are not my arena, but I think the biggest mistake was not going to war but going over the heads of the UN. Like it or not the UN exists for a reason and we just bypassed anysort of peace keeping process that the UN would have undergone. Do you have any idea what kind of image this gives our country? It tells everyone else that we are the supreme power and we answer to nobody. Think about what kind of reprocussions(sp?) this can have. It gives every ignorant person in the world the idea that we are the true tyrants. Whether what we did in Iraq was the moral thing to do this image GWB has given us will probably cause more violence than we can imagine, some of it may even happen on US soil. GWB has forever fouled the image of our country, and that is unforgivable
Yes I think we never should have gone to war the way we did. To think that we were going to war strictly for oil is about the most rediculous thing I've ever heard. For the amount of money we have spent on this war already we probably could have bought all the oil undergound in south america.
I don't consider myself learned on this kind of topic since I'm a scientist and debates are not my arena, but I think the biggest mistake was not going to war but going over the heads of the UN. Like it or not the UN exists for a reason and we just bypassed anysort of peace keeping process that the UN would have undergone. Do you have any idea what kind of image this gives our country? It tells everyone else that we are the supreme power and we answer to nobody. Think about what kind of reprocussions(sp?) this can have. It gives every ignorant person in the world the idea that we are the true tyrants. Whether what we did in Iraq was the moral thing to do this image GWB has given us will probably cause more violence than we can imagine, some of it may even happen on US soil. GWB has forever fouled the image of our country, and that is unforgivable
DigitalDuality
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i personally don't have a problem that we went after Saddam, i have a problem with the arrogant, decieving, and piss poor planned ways/methods in which we did, all under the whim of the blue blooded son.
*oh, and yeah all i'm after is a civil discussion. I am naturally a sarcastic and passionate person when i debate things i care deeply about and tend to curse alot, but i do not name call the people i'm talking to.. even in the times it might bedeserved, its not worth it.
*oh, and yeah all i'm after is a civil discussion. I am naturally a sarcastic and passionate person when i debate things i care deeply about and tend to curse alot, but i do not name call the people i'm talking to.. even in the times it might bedeserved, its not worth it.
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however i am not going to now....1) because i cant concentrate, and 2) because im pretty wasted DigitalDuality
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and lack of what's going on in the world and understanding people's opposing or different views doesn't?
and lack of what's going on in the world and understanding people's opposing or different views doesn't?
melicha8 said:
the UN does not work!! we have gone through the UN since '91 to get Saddam to prove he does not have WMD's, and he never did, kicked out UN weapon inspectors, and resolutions were agreed upon by numberous countries to go to war with Iraq if they did not supply proof. saddam didnt, and we were the only country with the nuts to stand up to resolution.
