bryand8930
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u wanna make power to redline....go have it tuned by tim bailey at surgeline tuning
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I'd imagine that would only be possible if it was AWD
A before and after dyno please!
Lil_vicious559
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Are you referring to all kind's of makes of cars, or just the MS3. Because my buddy has a
95 Civic EX couple weighs 1600lbs has swap
94 B18B LS motor with B-16tranny
Brian crower cams
intake
exhaust
race header
clutch & flywheel
pulley
Zex kit 65Shot
Tuned.
No where near over 250WHP with nitrous and he ran 12.6@109mph with DR's.
Wastegate13
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Trap speed is power and weight for the most part. ET will vary depending on available traction, gearing and driver skill.
read closer. he said 3400lbs car. we are talking about on street tires as well
and we're talking about the performance of the MS3 which weights alittle over 3100lbs...dude said that his MS3 with Bpv and SRI on street tires, traps 109. isnt possible.
you would need more than 375bhp for the Ms3 to trap that high
wait, you are changing what you said. you said he flashed back to the stock tune and did these low 13 runs. now you are saying you were tuned. which one is it? and why arent you talking about this "tune" here? lets get some support and comparisons going on
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bryand8930
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im not changing what i said at all ******. i was just responding to that guys comment.
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Lil_vicious559
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No where in this post it say's a 3400lb car, so yes i read it correctly. That's why i asked if you were just referring to Just the MS3 or all makes of cars.
DR's you will trap a little lower, so i guess we can just say my buddies civic can trap over 110+ on street tires.
Really 375hp to trap 109mph huh, So that's about 330-340WHP right after drivetrain loss.
Guess again buddy. You don't need 340WHP to trap 109 or for that matter more.
Laloosh has a MS3 with
Intake
catted TBE
CPE Ems @17-18psi
PG fuel pump
Probably right around 300-320WHP. He ran a 12.9@111mph
That's right 111mph trap with less than 330-340WHP. You need to do some research and look into more facts before you start with the doubts dude.
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123692263&highlight=Laloosh
bryand8930
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haha exactly what i told him
He must have had that thing tuned!! There's another guy on dragtimes that ran a 12.7, but he trapped only 106 mph....
FMOS Racing
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I ran a 13.0@107.8 with drag radials, rear motor mount, and a MSCAI. Went 13.6@106.7 with only the CAI.
I'll be back out in two weeks with a bit shorter drag radial and much lighter tires and wheels. I don't see 12.80s@109 mph as being unreasonable (not making a claim, just won't be surprised if it runs that number). Then I'll hook up the EBC.
I'll be back out in two weeks with a bit shorter drag radial and much lighter tires and wheels. I don't see 12.80s@109 mph as being unreasonable (not making a claim, just won't be surprised if it runs that number). Then I'll hook up the EBC.
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exactly what im saying. to run anything over 108mph a cars that weighs atleast 3000lbs will need more than 375bhp
yeah but im talking about on street tires not dr's. 100-101 will be average high trap for this car with ST's sri and bov
I'll have to disagree on that note. The 03 - 04 Cobra weighs 3665, and has 390 hp. the power to weight ratio comes out to 9.4 lb's per horsepower. The Cobra usually runs a 12.9 in most tests with a trap speed of 109 - 110.
A 3000 lb "mystery car" with just 345 hp has a power to weight ratio of 8.7 lb's per horsepower, therefore, it should have no problem at all running into the 12's with trap speeds in excess of 109 mph.
A MS3 with 345 hp has a power to weight ratio of 9.1 lb's per horsepower, therefore it should also be able to run in the 12's with trap speeds of 109 mph +.
Yes, I was bored
Wastegate13
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I'll have to disagree on that note. The 03 - 04 Cobra weighs 3665, and has 390 hp. the power to weight ratio comes out to 9.4 lb's per horsepower. The Cobra usually runs a 12.9 in most tests with a trap speed of 109 - 110.
A 3000 lb "mystery car" with just 345 hp has a power to weight ratio of 8.7 lb's per horsepower, therefore, it should have no problem at all running into the 12's with trap speeds in excess of 109 mph.
A MS3 with 345 hp has a power to weight ratio of 9.1 lb's per horsepower, therefore it should also be able to run in the 12's with trap speeds of 109 mph +.
Yes, I was bored
There's also available traction along with gearing that play important roles in what a car does at the strip.
The main point here is that low 14's right at 100 is the norm for a stock MS3. Intake/BPV cars maybe pick up 1-2 mph typically and might dip into the high 13's. What is unbelievable is an intake/BPV MS3 running mid 13's at 109. It's either an extreme factory freak or there is more the OP is not telling.
I'm well aware of that, but we were simply talking about weight and horsepower.
I'll have to disagree on that note. The 03 - 04 Cobra weighs 3665, and has 390 hp. the power to weight ratio comes out to 9.4 lb's per horsepower. The Cobra usually runs a 12.9 in most tests with a trap speed of 109 - 110.
A 3000 lb "mystery car" with just 345 hp has a power to weight ratio of 8.7 lb's per horsepower, therefore, it should have no problem at all running into the 12's with trap speeds in excess of 109 mph.
A MS3 with 345 hp has a power to weight ratio of 9.1 lb's per horsepower, therefore it should also be able to run in the 12's with trap speeds of 109 mph +.
Yes, I was bored
03 and 04 cobras were also underrated. they were between 410 and 420bhp
and when are people going to realize hp to weight ratio means s***.
look at the GT-R. its tipping 4000lbs and putting out 473hp. runs mid to low 11's even without LC depending on how well prepared the track is. physics catch up to the GT-R after 120mph.
but from a dig to 120. there is nothing that can vitually run with the GT-R. hp to weight ratios isnt truly an accurate way to calculate performance figures, especially when a car applies phycis properly by getting power to the ground efficiently...like the GT-R
look at the GT-R. its tipping 4000lbs and putting out 473hp. runs mid to low 11's even without LC depending on how well prepared the track is. physics catch up to the GT-R after 120mph.
but from a dig to 120. there is nothing that can vitually run with the GT-R. hp to weight ratios isnt truly an accurate way to calculate performance figures, especially when a car applies phycis properly by getting power to the ground efficiently...like the GT-R
Lil_vicious559
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Re-read the thread, no tune. After he did a tune and advanced the timing his dashhawk was implying he was trapping over 114mph+.
(uhm) Is that the only thing you can say, show me proof/facts not your 2cents
k/thnx/bye
