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[Circle9]

When I ran my car, all I had was an intake and some pretty bald stock tires. I was doing 9.2 in the 1/8 with a 2.2 60' but at only 76 - 78 mph.

The last slip has him do pretty much the same as I did, but with a worse 60'. He still passes the 1/8 8 mph faster than I, but he does it .1 tenth slower. Then he finishes off the 1/4 at only 13.9 but at 109 mph?

Its the last slip that makes the least sense. He has his slowest 1/8 ET, second best 60' runs over half a second slower than his best run, but does it the fastest of any of his runs.

 

[Fenrir]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xumk_VbvcNM

Bone stock these cars run under 14 with a decent driver. If he got good traction off the line, no doubt that he could have ran that fast. These cars just keep pulling in the higher gears. You should all be ashamed. With slicks, I've seen them run 13.5ish. Also, 240ka, quote from wikipedia on the first gen Vipers:

"in straight line performance, it completed a quarter mile in 12.6 seconds"

Trap speed isn't everything. Gear ratios lolwut?

EDIT: Also, who gives a s***? If the clocks were off, they were off. We'll never know the truth here because the car in question has already been modded way past the point of claimed run. Give it a rest people, move on with your lives.

 

[Wastegate13]

So I took my MS3 to the track yesterday and I did way better than his measly 109 trap. Cobb SRI and Greddy Type S.

I swear to god if I hear one more person say "driver mod" I will slap the s*** out of someone. Currently the only other living being here is my cat, please think of the kittens.

 

[240ka]

dont believe your trap either. not with street tiress and your mods

 

[240ka]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xumk_VbvcNM

Bone stock these cars run under 14 with a decent driver. If he got good traction off the line, no doubt that he could have ran that fast. These cars just keep pulling in the higher gears. You should all be ashamed. With slicks, I've seen them run 13.5ish. Also, 240ka, quote from wikipedia on the first gen Vipers:

"in straight line performance, it completed a quarter mile in 12.6 seconds"

Trap speed isn't everything. Gear ratios lolwut?

EDIT: Also, who gives a s***? If the clocks were off, they were off. We'll never know the truth here because the car in question has already been modded way past the point of claimed run. Give it a rest people, move on with your lives.

you are right. with our gearing and the way our stock tunes work. our cars have good low and mid range power but a bad topend.

he said the guy made the pass on the stock tune with sri and bov which is completet bulls***. our cars dont make enough power with sri, bov and stock tune to run a 109 trap . mind you, he said the guy was on street tires

the number i quote for the viper wasnt the best run. its what a decent driver would most likely achieve. the car can go faster than that.

hell, the z06 on stock tires is a 10 sec car. the machine can do 10's, its the driver needing the ability to get the car to hook but no matter what our cars do not produce enough power to trap 109. even with sri and bpv

 

[Circle9]

Hmm, I'd say the Speed3 actually has good mid range and top end power. The fact being we can't really make much of the power we have down low due to lack of traction. An example of good low and mid range power is the Civic Si, they can do pretty good up to about 85, after that they hit wall.

 

[Nliiitend1]

"low and mid range power" usually refers to the powerband of the engine (along the total range of engine speed), not the power of the entire vehicle at different travelling speeds...

A Civic Si is the exact opposite of a car with good "low and mid range power." It makes the bulk of its horsepower at very high engine speeds.

 

[Circle9]

Hehe, I think I've mixed this up before. I'm too busy thinking about acceleration.

 

[240ka]

Hmm, I'd say the Speed3 actually has good mid range and top end power. The fact being we can't really make much of the power we have down low due to lack of traction. An example of good low and mid range power is the Civic Si, they can do pretty good up to about 85, after that they hit wall.

i think our topend is s***.

i had a g35 and on the topend of the g pulled hard. the ms3 would beat it but the g35 would began to reel in the ms3 after 115. but not like the lighter 350z does. you can put a good enough lead on a G to where the Gwont catch up but not a 350z

my friend hass a 350z and when he had just injen cbe, upper and lower plenum spacers as well as aftermarket 19 inch wheels(i have a greddy type s and mscai along with springs), from a second gear roll of about 20mph, i would jump on him about a car length and pull ahead to about 1 and a 1/4 cars. i would hold that distance until about 115mph but around 120 he would began close the gap and by 145/150 he was passing me.


with our stocks tunes b/c of these k04's, our top end is s***. when i say low to mid range im talking about a roll from 20 to 120mph. or maybe i should say, lower mid to high mid range power.(im using the wrong term when i say "low/mid range" but you get what im saying)

 

[Wastegate13]

dont believe your trap either. not with street tiress and your mods

I hope you realize it was a joke. I've never seen an MS3 trap over 115ish, the required shift to 5th kills our trap speeds. This car was just not meant to be a drag car.

 

[240ka]

I hope you realize it was a joke. I've never seen an MS3 trap over 115ish, the required shift to 5th kills our trap speeds. This car was just not meant to be a drag car.

ha, my bad. i was so busy ranting i didnt realize it was a joke-haha.

 

[oaklandopen]

you've all been had!!!!

the friend obviously has a cobalt ss/tc and is running 13.4 @109mph stock, and the op can't get his ms3 better than 14.1 with all those mods

 

[sierra248]

I cant get the traction I used to(Need new Tires) but the only time I've run my car I would have beat you to the 1/8 anyway!!!! Cobb SRI only and yes i have the slips. Like everyones saying, its just physics, its was prob just a timing error at track, they do happen!! Hey I wish you were right, I'd love to go show some stock older vettes and all them youngsters with modded GT's my ass but it just aint gonna do 109. My bet for my car would be 13.6 @ 103, its a guess, wish I could put 13.5 @ 109 but that just doesnt make sense. I'm pretty satisfied that our station wagons can run that good, my only wish powerwise is to make power to redline!!
Tom


My 60Ft was 2.157 and the 1/8 was 8.884

 

[johns]

i want to go to the strip

 

[Circle9]

you've all been had!!!!

the friend obviously has a cobalt ss/tc and is running 13.4 @109mph stock, and the op can't get his ms3 better than 14.1 with all those mods

Wrong you are sir! Cobalt SS/TC running 13.4 - 13.5 are still only trapping 103-104 mph. The ones running high 12's are trapping 108 - 109.

 

[240ka]

yep, in order to do 108+ mph trap, you have to be making more than 375 crank hp

 

[GoFast]

yep, in order to do 108+ mph trap, you have to be making more than 375 crank hp

according to my calculations on a car that weighs 3400lbs(with driver) you should hit over 112. 345 crank HP will put you at 109

 

[Circle9]

Well that settles it! The guy gained 82 hp from just an intake!

 

[240ka]

according to my calculations on a car that weighs 3400lbs(with driver) you should hit over 112. 345 crank HP will put you at 109

not happeninf. as said, my friend ran 13.0 at 108 in his 04 350z with injen cbe, testpipe, intake, spacers and a 75 shot of nos. I can see him sqeezing out 109 but not 110

please name a 3400lbs car with 345 bhp thats trapping 112, i dont know of one

 

[GoFast]

Deleted last post. I misread some info so my last post was incorrect.