bryand8930
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yeah...and?
Launching
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yeah...and?
For what it's worth, I had an '88 Mustang LX coupe 5 speed new in '88, bigger headers, flowmasters, high flow cats, underdrive pulleys, some timing advancement, a 3.88 rear end with Mickey slicks. It hooked up real good, best run was a 13.27 at 101. The car had about 250 whp, similar to what that guys MS3 might have. The car weighed about 3250, so a little heavier. Does this help? If I knew I were right, why would I argue?
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FMOS Racing
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- 2008 MS3, plus a pickup and a beater car
Sorry my statment was a bit vague. I went 106.7 mph with a CAI as my only modification. A friend's MS3 has also ran 107 mph with only CAI. I ran basically the same mph with the drag radials (106.7 without vs 107.8 with), but over a half-second better ET. 100-101 mph is what a completely stock MS3 should trap.
See http://videos.streetfire.net/video/CAI-on-a-Mazdaspeed-3_205111.htm for a before and after Injen CAI install video of Dan Murney's MS3 on the dragstrip.
I'm not arguing about 109 mph being rather high, but I'm not sure if I consider it unreasonable since I won't be surprised if my car traps the same thing with the only power mod being a CAI. However, I may also just be jealous.
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MS3's with sri, bov's and some other minor bolt ons arent trapping that down here. maybe the air is better up there, alot better
i have let a couple different people run my car and the highest trap for my car was 100 with CAI and BOV.
im just not getting how those mods are giving the MS3 that much more power to add nearly 8 mphs to its trap. with out turbo back or dp back exhaust, intake, bov and a couple other mods...im seriously not getting it.
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not happening my friend. and correction, the 2008 c6's are 430hp and around 420tq. they are trapping around 114, should be able to get a higher trap though.
let along we are talking about with street tires as well. your car was trapping only 6mph's less with only Sri and BOV? haha, get out of here man.
obviously you dont know how fast C6's are and how slow our cars are compared to them
without a proper tune we cant even mess with modded EVO's and STI's but now you think our cars can run with vettes? haha, right
I know that, have a co-worker with an 04 Cobra that dynoed out 379 hp and 381 lb-ft's stock.
As for my stupid equations,
they were simply in reference to how much power a 3400 lb car would need to make in order to run certain times and trap certain speeds. I know full well that power to weight means nothing! Gearing, fwd, rwd, or awd, and aerodynamics play big roles as well.I know that, have a co-worker with an 04 Cobra that dynoed out 379 hp and 381 lb-ft's stock.
As for my stupid equations,
dont take offense so how i worded my statement.
i didnt mean for it to sound so brash. i wasnt calling your equations stupid.
bryand8930
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sorry everyone for the confusion i just talked to my friend and i was wrong. he trapped the 109 with the current set up on the custom 19psi Surgeline map. sooo he went 13.4@104 with the intake and forge valve sorry for the confusion(hand)
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- 06 LS MS6
07 BM GT (shell has been struck from the roll)
I had a wierd experience last night,
at the last light before home I figured I get some giggles and launched, banged second hard, felt a good bit of left=right alternating wheelhop for a 2-3 tenths and then it just damped down, felt like a fuel cut, died down to about 3 grand like buh-buh-buh for like a half second plus then came back on, foot was flat the whole time
wha happen???
bryand8930
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did u have dsc on? lol
Speed3Rookie
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What does this make the car do if he did? I was racing one day with dsc on and the car bogged during launch and picked up.
Exactly what's happening?
Thanks
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- 06 LS MS6
07 BM GT (shell has been struck from the roll)
to the LOL genius people.... go back to the "which wax is better" thread
done lots of launches never had this happen before
TC should not bog the car out for a half second plus.
I have felt it control wheelspin many times when it controls wheelspin it does not essentially kill the engine for a half second maybe longer,, it felt like forever
Speed3Rookie
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Actually....now that I think about it...my symptoms were exactly the same as yours and I did have dsc on. I thought it was turbo lag.
dsc kills the power. Also, you may feel like the clutch is slipping in 1 and 2nd. it's cause we have dual mesh clutch. When to much power is applied, the clutch slips automatically, not to kill the tranny.
What you felt, was dsc working. It reduced fuel supply and retards timing, thus it feels like a fuel cut. Also, keep in mind, that if you change the angle of the steering wheel, you will have less power (ecu cuts it), because the computer thinks you going off road. We have a quite advanced traction controll system.
What you felt, was dsc working. It reduced fuel supply and retards timing, thus it feels like a fuel cut. Also, keep in mind, that if you change the angle of the steering wheel, you will have less power (ecu cuts it), because the computer thinks you going off road. We have a quite advanced traction controll system.
Dual mass flywheel is to reduce vibrations not to allow slippage...
Nliiitend1
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QFT. I've never heard of a "dual mesh clutch"...
On a related note, when you add obscene amounts of power to a car with a Dual Mass Flywheel, you may end up with drivetrain slippage, but that's not the clutch slipping...it's the two pieces of flywheel slipping against one another as the applied power overcomes flywheel spring tension...
