Just got my license back after 3 months suspension!

[solidtrance]

Rules to follow if getting pulled over (for anything):

Find a very safe place to pull over. If the party lights are on and there's no place to stop safely, both for your sake and the law, try to indicate that you're going to to pull over in a safe spot as soon as you spot one. If they get on the loudspeaker and tell you pull over NOW, just do it anyway.

Keep both hands visibly on the steering wheel, and don't reach for your registration or anything unless they ask for it. As a safety issue for you, lock the doors and keep your windows up (unless they're down already) in the unlikely even that it's not a real cop.

Basically, be very predictable so they don't perceive you as a threat. Don't do anything unless asked to. Period.

First impressions count a lot, so comply and be polite no matter what they say.

If asked, "do you know why I stopped you?" say yes if you know. Answer all questions truthfully, even if it comes down to something like "I just wanted to see what my car could do in a safe place."

Meanwhile, keep your hands on the wheel until instructed to do otherwise. Very important.

All this gives you half a chance if the law person is a good person, and most of them are. Everything you do to make them feel safe is good, and you generally know exactly why they pulled you over so just admit it, it shows that you were aware of what you were doing. Never play dumb, they just write you off as a liar/idiot and there's no slack.

But, if everything goes well you might get a warning, or at least some mph shaved off the ticket.

All bets are off if a motorcycle cop pulls you over though. Still say the same things, but their only job is to write tickets. Motor cops are the guys who couldn't get a job catching criminals, and they have a complex about it. But they should still be treated with respect. They have a gun too, after all.

I don't want to say how many tickets I have not gotten by doing all of the above, but it can really help a lot!

And the universal rule, if you had any recent alcohol intake, is NOT to answer their question if you've been drinking with "I only had a couple of beers." Instant DUI. The only reason they would ask that question is because they already know.

Just say no sir/mam. If they smell it but can tell you aren't drunk from your initial interaction, it gives them some wiggle room. But they hear "I only had a couple of beers" every day, so it's an instant bust.

However, if they pull you from the car and ask for an FST or breathalyzer test, THEN ask you how many beers you really had, just shut the **** up. If a cop wants to make you a DUI they will, and you don't want that admission on record, just say something like you're driving back from a date or something and didn't keep track.

Great advice right up to the end. So you are saying "Be honest and polite unless you have been drinking?" I would go with something more like "Be honest and polite, and if you have been drinking.....don't drive, at all, ever, period."

That is my advice, and it may save your life. No sympathy for DUI's here. besides in most states a Cop can write you a DUI even if you are under the limit if he or she determines that your driving is impaired.

Not trying to some like a killjoy here, just concerned because we all share the same roads out there, and your actions can have devastating effects for others, and thats the bottom line.

 

[kaganb]

My best 3 times being pulled over are:

1) Pulled over doing 42 in a 15 in my 1988 Toyota Camry Station Wagon. I was in a University and they had an island that had a ramp to it. I was 18, stupid, had a POS car and wanted to see if I could get air. Cop comes up (a friend was in the car with me), asks me if I realized how fast I was going. I said no, and he stated my speed. He left and I turned to my friend and said that I thought I was going at least 50. Got a verbal warning and that's it.

2) Just got my license renewed in a town I wasn't familiar with. Pulled up to a stop sign in the left turn only lane, noticed the cop heading towards me on the opposite road where he pulled over as he saw me. I made sure to stop completely, looked both ways and then turned with no cars around me at all.

Cop turns on the lights and pulls me over. Asks me "Do you know why I pulled you over?" I responded with a "No". He said that there was no left turns at that intersection (even though there's a left turn only lane!) from 4-6 (it was 4:20). I mentioned that I didn't realize that and he took my info. He came back, told me that there were 2 signs and that he didn't believe me that I didn't see any. $120 ticket with 3 points.

Luckily the judge of the town is a family friend, so when I went to court, he directed the conversation and we got it to $53 and 0 points.

3) Was playing Warcraft 3 with 2 of my friends against others online. Around 2:30 AM a car hit the telephone pole near his house which knocked out the internet and power, so we went for a drive and dropped my friend off about 20 minutes away. Made a turn in a 25 MPH zone doing 25 MPH (I was in my Integra by this point) and got pulled over.

Cop comes up, asks me where I was headed. I told him about dropping my friend off. He then asked if where we came from. I mentioned that we were playing video games at my other friend's house. Then he asked if we had been drinking, I said no. He mentioned that I was going faster than 25 MPH, which I know was a lie because I was keeping an eye on my speedometer. I told him that and he went off on me telling me he is trained to determine how fast an object is going between 2 points (which means that he didn't actually radar me and was just trying to see if I was drunk driving). He walks away with my info and comes back about 5 minutes later, throws my information in my lap and tells me to slow it down and walks away.

 

[kwsmithphoto]

Cop comes up, asks me where I was headed. I told him about dropping my friend off. He then asked if where we came from. I mentioned that we were playing video games at my other friend's house. Then he asked if we had been drinking, I said no. He mentioned that I was going faster than 25 MPH, which I know was a lie because I was keeping an eye on my speedometer. I told him that and he went off on me telling me he is trained to determine how fast an object is going between 2 points (which means that he didn't actually radar me and was just trying to see if I was drunk driving). He walks away with my info and comes back about 5 minutes later, throws my information in my lap and tells me to slow it down and walks away.

Cops lie, plain and simple.

A few years ago, I stopped off at a bar near my house. I parked right outside and a noticed a police car parked across the street, watching the bar. No problem, I figured, I was only gonna have 2-3 beers and then leave before they kicked in. I was there all of 10 minutes.

So, I get in my car, made two rights and a left onto the main street, heading home, which wasn't far. Lo and behold, just as I turned left, the cops pulled away from the curb and tailed me. I went the speed limit, 30, drove as soberly as a nun on Sunday morning, then made a left onto my street. Party lights came on, so I pulled over under a street light, shut the car off, and kept my hands on the wheel, just like you're supposed to.

Of course, the superior cop (his partner was a newbie) asked me if I knew why I was getting pulled over and of course I said no, because "I knew you were behind me, and it's my neighborhood so I know and obey the speed limit." But of course he smelled the beer on my breath and asked if I'd been drinking. I said yes, I had exactly 3 beers at the bar you were watching. Ok sir, get out of the car...

They tried an FST but I was having trouble with it because of the very rough road surface and said so. So they take me into the station to administer it there. I was handcuffed to a bench for about an hour as the 3, admittedly strong belgian beers, kicked in. They knew that - they were counting on something called alcohol rise to boost my numbers.

I did just fine on the FST, but they claimed there were a couple of problems and asked me to take a breathalyzer test. I said sure, crossing my fingers that the alcohol rise didn't put me over the limit. Well it did...

So we get a copy of the police report. It told a completely different story and timeline.

#1 It said they were on an totally different street and saw me cross the intersection, going 45mph. Making up the speeding charge gave them probable cause.

#2 In order to cover up the hour they benched me to make my BAC rise, they said the time this all started was 2:15AM. I was pulled over at exactly 1AM.

#3 They said I refused to take an on-site breathalyzer test. In truth, they never asked me, because they knew I'd pass it. I would have taken one if I knew I had the option.

#4 Because they lied by saying I refused the breathalyzer test, they did an FST (field sobriety test), but said it wasn't possible to complete because of the surface (about the only hint of truth in the entire report).

They literally fabricated an entire scenario that simply never happened. They new perfectly well that - at the time I was driving - my BAC was well below the limit. Technically, you can drink a considerable amount of alcohol in a very short time and legally drive before you're over the limit. And they knew it. It's biologically impossible to get drunk in less than 10 minutes.

So, they literally MADE me a drunk driver, but I was absolutely NOT intoxicated when I was actually driving! I only crossed that threshold while handcuffed to a bench for an hour. And they fabricated the police report to cover their asses, because they're not supposed to do that. But they charged with DUI and speeding anyway, and locked me up until the next afternoon. At least they had the decency to move my car so it wouldn't get towed.

Now here in CA, IIRC, you're only allowed 4 points in a 12 month period or else your license is suspended for a year. A DUI is 2 points, and that bogus speeding charge cost me 1 more point. About 9 months later, the wife and I were in Las Vegas, and decided to a side trip on the way home to LA via Hoover Dam. This routes you through a little town called Searchlight, where you pick up 2-lane highway that gets back to the Interstate right about at the CA border.

It's wide open desert, not a car in sight, so I decided to open it up a little. To 88mph (in a 55), according to the NV Trooper who appeared outta nowhere. Who wrote me up for exactly that.

The next day, I looked up what the points would be for that. 2, pushing me 1 over, and causing my license to go poof for a year. So I call the courthouse in Searchlight, and ask about traffic school to alleviate the points. They said ya, sure, you can even do it from home over the Internet! One catch: you have to appear in court in person and ask the judge! s***!

So the next week, I left in the middle of the night and drove back to little ole Searchlight, Nevada, because I had to be there at 8AM. By 9AM I was driving back to LA. But it was worth it save my license!

 

[08cosmic3]

I've been very lucky and have not had a speeding ticket since owning the speed. Last speeding ticket was 18 years ago, yes I'm older than most of you. I putt putt 95 percent of the time but the other 5, well I won't go there, might get flamed by the owners of speeds that NEVER speed, yeah right.

 

[kwsmithphoto]

I'll bet I have you beat - I'm 47. My dad was a professional race car driver until he got married. So, I tend to keep up with faster traffic but don't drive like an idiot.

Thinking back, I didn't get a single ticket from 1988-2008. Most of that was just dumb luck, but some of that was just knowing how to deal with cops so they have a way out of giving you a ticket. Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't...

 

[08cosmic3]

I'll bet I have you beat - I'm 47. My dad was a professional race car driver until he got married. So, I tend to keep up with faster traffic but don't drive like an idiot.

Thinking back, I didn't get a single ticket from 1988-2008. Most of that was just dumb luck, but some of that was just knowing how to deal with cops so they have a way out of giving you a ticket. Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't...

I got you, I'm 48. You have to be smart and know were you can get on it and where you better not. I'm sure it's just a matter of time before I get a ticket in the Speed, however, the speed does tend to fly under the radar and I will not be adding blue headlights, tint or a loud exhaust to my car. Blue lights grab attention as does a loud exhaust and the cops don't like tinted windows. You should know where the cops like to sit and be careful in and around those area's. Don't be tempted to race any and all mufflered civics that get near you.

 

[boosted3]

If asked, "do you know why I stopped you?" say yes if you know. Answer all questions truthfully, even if it comes down to something like "I just wanted to see what my car could do in a safe place."

Are you serious? Don't say anything! Keep your mouth shut the entire encounter if you can.
Answer all questions with questions if you have to respond.
"do you know why I stopped you?"
"why, sir?"

Being compliant but quiet is the best policy. You will never talk yourself out of a citation.. save the excuses.

Never ever consent to search.. ever! For any reason. Ever!!!!!!1

 

[kwsmithphoto]

Well, boosted3, I've driven away from 10 stops in my life by being perfectly honest. One of them was for triple digits.

The reason cops ask you that is to see if you were paying attention, or if you're a liar. If you answer with "no, I have no idea why you stopped me," they either peg your for an idiot or a liar or both. With few exceptions, you know (or should know) exactly what you were doing, so just answer it truthfully.

Only hot, crying chicks can get away with playing dumb. But the cop knew what you were doing, and they don't like liars or idiots. They get lied to by idiots all day, every day, so being honest and expressing contrition is very refreshing to them. Even if you get the ticket anyway, they might knock some speed off to reduce the fine and points, or something else that reduces the pain.

Besides, I have a simple policy - never argue with anyone with a gun!

PS: You're in CA, have you ever refused a search before? I tried that once when I was holding. They called in for a K2 unit to let the dog have a sniff around. When the dog started barking at an open rear window, the cop said "Is it ok if I search the now[/], or do you want to wait another hour while I get a warrant driven over here?" I said "how about if I just show you where the pot is?" They made me crush it into the roadside dirt and let me go.

 

[kwsmithphoto]

I got you, I'm 48. You have to be smart and know were you can get on it and where you better not. I'm sure it's just a matter of time before I get a ticket in the Speed, however, the speed does tend to fly under the radar and I will not be adding blue headlights, tint or a loud exhaust to my car. Blue lights grab attention as does a loud exhaust and the cops don't like tinted windows. You should know where the cops like to sit and be careful in and around those area's. Don't be tempted to race any and all mufflered civics that get near you.

He he, ya. Racing Civics is no fun anyway, you'll just embarass the poor kid. Although I do have legal tint, and 85% tint on the illegal windows, but it's never been a problem for me. Plus, I have excellent Copdar, I seem to always slow down right before I see one.

But a ticket is inevitable at some point. Probably on a mountain road somewhere. I'm not a street racer anymore, but I do like my 8/10ths drives on curvy back roads. I know where they lurk in the local hills, but not out of my usual turf.

Ah well, good luck to us all. Getting pulled over for any reason really sucks.

 

[MaikuMS3]

Cops lie, plain and simple.

A few years ago, I stopped off at a bar near my house. I parked right outside and a noticed a police car parked across the street, watching the bar. No problem, I figured, I was only gonna have 2-3 beers and then leave before they kicked in. I was there all of 10 minutes.

So, I get in my car, made two rights and a left onto the main street, heading home, which wasn't far. Lo and behold, just as I turned left, the cops pulled away from the curb and tailed me. I went the speed limit, 30, drove as soberly as a nun on Sunday morning, then made a left onto my street. Party lights came on, so I pulled over under a street light, shut the car off, and kept my hands on the wheel, just like you're supposed to.

Of course, the superior cop (his partner was a newbie) asked me if I knew why I was getting pulled over and of course I said no, because "I knew you were behind me, and it's my neighborhood so I know and obey the speed limit." But of course he smelled the beer on my breath and asked if I'd been drinking. I said yes, I had exactly 3 beers at the bar you were watching. Ok sir, get out of the car...

They tried an FST but I was having trouble with it because of the very rough road surface and said so. So they take me into the station to administer it there. I was handcuffed to a bench for about an hour as the 3, admittedly strong belgian beers, kicked in. They knew that - they were counting on something called alcohol rise to boost my numbers.

I did just fine on the FST, but they claimed there were a couple of problems and asked me to take a breathalyzer test. I said sure, crossing my fingers that the alcohol rise didn't put me over the limit. Well it did...

So we get a copy of the police report. It told a completely different story and timeline.

#1 It said they were on an totally different street and saw me cross the intersection, going 45mph. Making up the speeding charge gave them probable cause.

#2 In order to cover up the hour they benched me to make my BAC rise, they said the time this all started was 2:15AM. I was pulled over at exactly 1AM.

#3 They said I refused to take an on-site breathalyzer test. In truth, they never asked me, because they knew I'd pass it. I would have taken one if I knew I had the option.

#4 Because they lied by saying I refused the breathalyzer test, they did an FST (field sobriety test), but said it wasn't possible to complete because of the surface (about the only hint of truth in the entire report).

They literally fabricated an entire scenario that simply never happened. They new perfectly well that - at the time I was driving - my BAC was well below the limit. Technically, you can drink a considerable amount of alcohol in a very short time and legally drive before you're over the limit. And they knew it. It's biologically impossible to get drunk in less than 10 minutes.

So, they literally MADE me a drunk driver, but I was absolutely NOT intoxicated when I was actually driving! I only crossed that threshold while handcuffed to a bench for an hour. And they fabricated the police report to cover their asses, because they're not supposed to do that. But they charged with DUI and speeding anyway, and locked me up until the next afternoon. At least they had the decency to move my car so it wouldn't get towed.

Now here in CA, IIRC, you're only allowed 4 points in a 12 month period or else your license is suspended for a year. A DUI is 2 points, and that bogus speeding charge cost me 1 more point. About 9 months later, the wife and I were in Las Vegas, and decided to a side trip on the way home to LA via Hoover Dam. This routes you through a little town called Searchlight, where you pick up 2-lane highway that gets back to the Interstate right about at the CA border.

It's wide open desert, not a car in sight, so I decided to open it up a little. To 88mph (in a 55), according to the NV Trooper who appeared outta nowhere. Who wrote me up for exactly that.

The next day, I looked up what the points would be for that. 2, pushing me 1 over, and causing my license to go poof for a year. So I call the courthouse in Searchlight, and ask about traffic school to alleviate the points. They said ya, sure, you can even do it from home over the Internet! One catch: you have to appear in court in person and ask the judge! s***!

So the next week, I left in the middle of the night and drove back to little ole Searchlight, Nevada, because I had to be there at 8AM. By 9AM I was driving back to LA. But it was worth it save my license!

that was totally your fault. you knew the cop was watching and you went in anyway and drank 3 beers and still drove out of there. 1 beer is about 2 shots of hard liquor and that was over the 0.8 limit. if you drink, dont drive EVER.

 

[solidtrance]

Cops lie, plain and simple.

#2 In order to cover up the hour they benched me to make my BAC rise, they said the time this all started was 2:15AM. I was pulled over at exactly 1AM.

So, they literally MADE me a drunk driver, but I was absolutely NOT intoxicated when I was actually driving! I only crossed that threshold while handcuffed to a bench for an hour. And they fabricated the police report to cover their asses, because they're not supposed to do that. But they charged with DUI and speeding anyway, and locked me up until the next afternoon. At least they had the decency to move my car so it wouldn't get towed.

That must have been one hell of a bench they had you sitting on. I have never heard of a bench that will get anyone sitting on it drunk......or maybe it was the 3 beers you had in 10 min. It seems like you are suggesting that time makes you drunk, and you are leaving out one very important factor..the alcohol you consumed. The alcohol is the major factor here. If you had not been drinking you could have been on that bench forever and you BAC would have read 0.00. But instead of take responsibility for your part in this, you blame the cops.

A few years ago, I stopped off at a bar near my house. I parked right outside and a noticed a police car parked across the street, watching the bar. No problem, I figured, I was only gonna have 2-3 beers and then leave before they kicked in. I was there all of 10 minutes.

This is the mother of all bad ideas. I read the rest of this story thinking the rest of the story was going to be a joke, or at least a funny story.

People need to take responsibility for their actions and be accountable for their choices. I dont understand why so many people have a false sense of entitlement (who stops to have 2-3 beers with plans to drive anywhere after that) and a misguided sense of justice (I can't believe the cops pulled me over after I pulled out of a bar).

No one made you drink 3 beers in 10 min. I'm not even sure that is possible, 3 beers in 10 min is ridiculous. No one made you get in your car after consuming too much alcohol. The cops were doing their job plain and simple. You were breaking the law and they caught you. Typical of people that don't take responsibility for their own actions, you look to blame someone else. Its kind of sad really.

 

[kwsmithphoto]

I did take, and am still taking, full responsibility for my actions. I knew exactly what I was doing, but at no time was I driving while intoxicated, or even breaking the law.

Alcohol rise is very real. And I was very honest with the cops. But I couldn't argue alcohol rise because they lied so much, and covered their tracks quite well.

My only issue is that they committed perjury to get the BAC number they wanted. That says far more about their actions then mine. I never lied but they did. Cops are supposed to uphold the law, not break it.

And FWIW, 10 minutes is plenty of time to down 3, 8 ounce beers.

So both of you stop pointing your finger at me and stuff it up your ass instead. The underlying fact is I was well under the limit, they knew it, and committed a felony by falsifying their report. If you think that is justified, you're a fool or a fascist, possibly both.

1 beer is about 2 shots of hard liquor and that was over the 0.8 limit. if you drink, dont drive EVER.

No it isn't, not even close! I learned that in the classes the state made me take as part of my conviction! I won't argue that drunk driving is a bad thing, but I will argue that I wasn't driving while drunk, and basic biology has my back on that one. The only reason I got convicted of a crime is because the police broke the law. Period.

But ya, parking in front of bar being watched by cops was pretty stupid. Fully agree with you guys on that one.

 

[solidtrance]

"I take full responsibility....but" I don't think you get it.

Anyhow the story you tell doesn't sound like fun at all. But then again drinking 3 beers in 10 min stopped being fun in college for me.

So both of you stop pointing your finger at me and stuff it up your ass instead. The underlying fact is I was well under the limit, they knew it, and committed a felony by falsifying their report. If you think that is justified, you're a fool or a fascist, possibly both.

Classy!

 

[kwsmithphoto]

You're wrong, I do get it. I didn't argue with the police, plead no contest at my hearing, and took my lumps for it. What I did was stupid - now I either walk, ride a bike, or take a taxi if I've been drinking - any amount.

But what you aren't getting is that there is never a rationale for an officer of the law to knowingly manufacture a story that never happened. Ever. It's ethically wrong and completely illegal.

And I apologize for my snarky remarks.

 

[solidtrance]

If the police made up any part of the story or lied about what happened than that is unfortunate and inexcusable. Abuse of power sucks, I've seen my share of it and it really creates a hostile environment for everyone involved.

 

[ptrautne]

3) Was playing Warcraft 3 with 2 of my friends against others online. Around 2:30 AM a car hit the telephone pole near his house which knocked out the internet and power, so we went for a drive and dropped my friend off about 20 minutes away. Made a turn in a 25 MPH zone doing 25 MPH (I was in my Integra by this point) and got pulled over.

Cop comes up, asks me where I was headed. I told him about dropping my friend off. He then asked if where we came from. I mentioned that we were playing video games at my other friend's house. Then he asked if we had been drinking, I said no. He mentioned that I was going faster than 25 MPH, which I know was a lie because I was keeping an eye on my speedometer. I told him that and he went off on me telling me he is trained to determine how fast an object is going between 2 points (which means that he didn't actually radar me and was just trying to see if I was drunk driving). He walks away with my info and comes back about 5 minutes later, throws my information in my lap and tells me to slow it down and walks away.

I had a similar experience in Mexico. I just watched a movie with friends in Mexico and I was driving back to my hotel that was in Texas. Just before I get to the US there is a bad section of town with prostitution and drugs which I drive near. I was driving down the street and I saw the cop pull out behind me so I drove the speed limit so I would not get pulled over. The cop drove up next to my car looked at me then got back behind me and turned the lights on. It was a federal officer who did not speak any English and kept saying de donde vas. To make a long story short he though I came from boystown and had drugs in my car so the car and I got searched as a military guy held a gun to my head.

 

[cymx5]

My cousin who patrols around Chicago got passed in a 35mph zone just over a hill by high school students doing an estimated 80-90mph. Some people are just ******* stupid, but then again all high school students are. The key difference is some know where to do it relatively safely and some don't. He gave them 'the talk' and a ticket just under the limit that would have put them in jail.

I used to believe that if I kept over 80mph on the interstates, I wouldn't be caught from behind. Ironically, my only two speeding tickets were from an officer traveling towards me in opposing traffic. Nothing nearly as bad as what some of you were doing though! (stooges)

My experience getting ****** by the law was the fact Illinois told me to pay $40 and take an online drivers safety course to keep the first ticket off my record. I did just that, and 9 months later, with the ticket on my record, they denied that the program even existed. It fell from my record when I turned 21, and $40 is not worth my time to fight for.

 

[SBSPEED3]

I did take, and am still taking, full responsibility for my actions. I knew exactly what I was doing, but at no time was I driving while intoxicated, or even breaking the law.

Alcohol rise is very real. And I was very honest with the cops. But I couldn't argue alcohol rise because they lied so much, and covered their tracks quite well.

My only issue is that they committed perjury to get the BAC number they wanted. That says far more about their actions then mine. I never lied but they did. Cops are supposed to uphold the law, not break it.

And FWIW, 10 minutes is plenty of time to down 3, 8 ounce beers.

So both of you stop pointing your finger at me and stuff it up your ass instead. The underlying fact is I was well under the limit, they knew it, and committed a felony by falsifying their report. If you think that is justified, you're a fool or a fascist, possibly both.



No it isn't, not even close! I learned that in the classes the state made me take as part of my conviction! I won't argue that drunk driving is a bad thing, but I will argue that I wasn't driving while drunk, and basic biology has my back on that one. The only reason I got convicted of a crime is because the police broke the law. Period.

But ya, parking in front of bar being watched by cops was pretty stupid. Fully agree with you guys on that one.

i call BS,
all cop cars are and have been for several years equipped with dash mount cameras that have the time posted. the time-stamp is not controllable by the officer operating the vehicle. as part of a DUI or any traffic case you can demand evidence of the time of citation,detention, or arrest, the video would've clearly shown that you were pulled over at 1am if that part is true. from there you could argue your elevation theory, though it would not have worked. also clear evidence of a speeding violation must be provided be it speed matching, (dash cam also has cop-car speed and in some cases radar readouts) radar, laser, or distance timing. evidence of proper calibration and certification of equipment and operating officer must also be readily available as well as a recent survey of the road to prove proper distance measurement.
you are an idiot for deliberately drinking 3 beers and driving away with the full knowledge that there were cops watching the bar. then you are an idiot for not demanding the evidence that would prove the fabrication of the cops story.
i think you made up this story to make it sound like you were innocent and taken advantage of. no one likes cops when they get busted, but the truth is you were in the wrong. accept it admit you your stupidity and move on
88 in a 55 is also your fault. wide open roads in the desert is the perfect place to be lased/ timed from a long distance.

 

[drledford93]

that was totally your fault. you knew the cop was watching and you went in anyway and drank 3 beers and still drove out of there. 1 beer is about 2 shots of hard liquor and that was over the 0.8 limit. if you drink, dont drive EVER.

1 beer roughly equals 1 shot of hard liquor.

 

[drledford93]

To make a long story short he though I came from boystown and had drugs in my car so the car and I got searched as a military guy held a gun to my head.

El Pisso, I take it? (Former resident here...)