Just got flashed

[Lil_vicious559]

So, since there's no answer, what I get is that you don't know your source, and just guessing what the reflash is doing. It seems you're also convinced that my car hasn't had the reflash, despite the fact that I've posted it has been done several times.
I checked at the dealer, they said ALL RECALLS ARE COMPLETED.

Slow your roll buddy. I hope you are not challenging me on my quotes i stated. For being 50yrs old you have a stubborn way of comprehending and taking into consideration that my statements are coming from my own personal opinion and somewhat legit.

And what proof do you want me to provide.

1.)People are complaining about the power loss of the MS6 after the recent reflash they've had.
2.)people have stated the fact that the car's power is more linear like a V6 rather than the Raw TURBO power you feel from a SRT4 or MS3/MS6.
3.)I said the GM said 70% of the time you take your car in for service, the service department will do most of the recalls that are out.

I know all about the high RPM boost drop. Don't try to BS me with that crap. We all know why those components are being installed. Guys are modding for more than stock power. Bigger turbos require tuning and more fuel delivery.

So in other words your trying to say that in order to gain power and eliminate the Shutter plate valve and Boost drop problem that Bigger Turbo's are required??(braindead

Yeah there are some people out there that are running bigger turbo's, but you don't need to run a bigger turbo to eliminate the problem.

They want to eliminate the stock engine control that drops the boost at high RPM, an understandable MOD. The boost drop under stock ECU operation is not a defect, it's a system control.

Thanks for notifying me, I'm sure we all know that already.

"What is the problem? The monitor function used to detect Short Fuel Trim maximum threshold strategy is inoperative." So tell me, when did this become a recall over the "Shutter plate valve"? It's a fault detection circuit that is not capable of detecting a fault that could occur.

Here smart guy i'll post pictures for you all you have to do now is read look and read.

September 2007 due to recall
2007, CX-7, 2007 mazdaspeed 3, 2006-2007 Mazdaspeed6

once again pictures of the models of the cars for RECALL

Proof of Shutter plate swirl valve.

What is the Problem?
Due to variety of friction the variable swirl shutter valve and position switch, the shutter valve actuator may not be able to fully depress the position switch. This is especially true during cold ambient temperatures and will cause the malfunction indicator light(MIL) to illuminate with the DTC P2006 (variable swirl shutter valve stuck closed) stored in memory. Presence of this concern will not affect the operation of the shutter valve actuator.

WHAT WILL MAZDA DO?
Your Mazda dealer will reprogram the PCM to include the latest calibration, and replace the variable swirl shutter valve actuator with a modified one free of charge. The repair should take approximately one hour to complete. However, it may take longer depending on the necessary repairs and service workload at your Mazda dealership.

 

[Lil_vicious559]

As i was stating the dealer will reprogram the PCM to include the Latest calibration and variable swirl shutter valve actuator.

Which is why people are feeling the linear v6 powerband. Rather than the raw TURBO power that's intact.

 

[chrisyng]

For some reason, I don't think it's 3+5 who is having problems with reading comprehension ...

 

[mal_tiempo]

(deadhorse

That's all we're doing arguing with him. I already know he doesn't REALLY know what's going on, because there is no proof of actual power loss, just a perceived change in power delivery. Don't confuse the two.

 

[3+5]

(deadhorse
+1

 

[SilversunMSP]

If we wanted a linear feel of V6, guess what we would have bought. The majority have noticed the power loss or at least change in the power curve.

 

[LBV]

I had the 2 recent flashes done (4807H & 4907H) and absolutely hated the way the car ran after - it drove different, it sounded different, the power just wasn't there. But after about a week it appears to be back to the way I remember... so just give it some time.

 

[clos561]

i think that flash is to recalibrate the computer for the shutter valve and emission which is because of soot from exhaust. maybe the flash leans the car a bit. anyone with a/f gauge could notice f this is true or not. my car didnt seem slower or faster. its all a mental thing in my opinion and you shouldnt worry about it.

 

[JaxJeff]

No recall done yet

I guess you are not to familiar with the car's capabilities and the boost drop we get after 5500-6K.

Take ur MS6 out for a spin and nail it all the way to redline in any gear. After 1st and 2nd gear around 6k, your going to feel the car's power fall flat on its face. Boost drops down to about 4-5psi. Because of the shutter plate valves. The car our ECU isn't reading enough air to maximize and hold boost long enough to redline Because of the Shutter plates.

Why do you think people are getting CP-E's EMS and PG's fuel pump system.

But back on topic. The car will be reflashed wether you take your car in for any service.

I take it you don't have the recent flash on your speed6, i can understand your argument. But at the same time, Mazdaspeed dealership's are doing the reflash probably because of detonation timing.

I havent had the recall done... 06 MS6 yet because of everything ive heard on here and people That i know in person that have had it done... both 07's. As far as the falling flat at 6k. I agree ... BUT actually have noticed that since I put a CAI on the cars seems
to hold power longer ...almost to 6700 Id say. Anbody else notice this post CAI ???

 

[berad]

Completely stock. Got flashed today. Power band is smoother and sees higher rpm but no loss. I like it actually. Saves me having to shift so much with our short gears after boost drops off.

Take it as you will. I just wanted to keep up for factory warranty purposes...until Cobb releases the Accessport :naughty:

 

[3+5]

Took mine through the gears the other day, purposely to watch the tach in the first four gears, (till I ran into traffic on the freeway) no power drop all the way to redline.

 

[Lil_vicious559]

Completely stock. Got flashed today. Power band is smoother and sees higher rpm but no loss. I like it actually. Saves me having to shift so much with our short gears after boost drops off.

Take it as you will. I just wanted to keep up for factory warranty purposes...until Cobb releases the Accessport :naughty:

Took mine through the gears the other day, purposely to watch the tach in the first four gears, (till I ran into traffic on the freeway) no power drop all the way to redline.

Both of you will not gain any power all the way to redline from the Reflash. Now your just being ignorant.

The power drop loss will still be there regardless of the flash. You need an EMS and Fuel pump to hold better power to redline.

The car hits a brick wall after 5500-6000K depending on which gear your in at certain RPM's.

(help)

 

[berad]

Both of you will not gain any power all the way to redline from the Reflash. Now your just being ignorant.

The power drop loss will still be there regardless of the flash. You need an EMS and Fuel pump to hold better power to redline.

The car hits a brick wall after 5500-6000K depending on which gear your in at certain RPM's.

(help)

Never said all the way to redline. All I said was it changed and there was no loss of power. Definitely smoother now.

 

[evo'skickass]

i just got the car back from the dealer today after having the re-call done. It does feel alot smoother and alot of the stutters that happened when i was part-throttle are gone, and it does run slightly different, but nothing drastically different. Its a mental thing, because you dont get as much of a snap on and off power like before, its not any slower then it was, and it still runs just like a turbo car. actually runs alot more like the 335i i drove with the tiny ass turbos...but man that thing could pull and very very linear too. i dont mind the flash. i think its just taking time to adjust to the settings, like one of posters said before, give it a week or so, should be back to normal.

 

[gooniac33]

Took mine through the gears the other day, purposely to watch the tach in the first four gears, (till I ran into traffic on the freeway) no power drop all the way to redline.

My car was recently reflashed after the swirl valve was replaced. Only thing that is different is at about 6000 RPM. It used to noticably fall off in power. But now it is less abrupt. With the way this thing makes torque it is useless to go past 6k rpms anyway. And it makes power much smoother now than before. It is still just as fast but not as abrupt. This car is really a sleeper in 6th gear at anything above 70MPH. No need to shift at all. Just nail it and go. But if you drop a gear it really rockets forward!! I love this car but it has minor issues. Like it feels like there is a mount or something loose that needs to get fixed. And in the rain it still handles like it does in the dry. I am loving this car big time !!

 

[acidbug]

I have had all the flash/recalls done for the ecu..swirl..etc.

I can say that i have def lost power..but power seems more linear. Aka flatter power band..

Power in 4th,5th,and6th def feels slower...but i never downshift b/c this turbo gives me 5psi at mere 2krpms.

And i occasionally get the stutter..it really depends on the weather to be honest.

-C

 

[dutchbuffalo]

Has anyone noticed any improvement in gas mileage since that is what the recall is for.

 

[acidbug]

To be honest..when i first purchased the car..i would easily get over 300miles and it would be right about 1/4 gas tank left.

But after all of the flashes and such..i don't see better than 275-290..And thats with shifting at 3k rpms. No WOT launches..etc.

-C

 

[03MSP]

Just when I'm thinking about going in to get the clutch issue fixed I see this thread...I'm scared now

 

[Qwik6]

I also noticed that i get less gas mileage after the 2 recalls being fixed. I used to get 325 a tank and now im averaging about 275. Also there is no power drop off and it holds 16psi to redline. But every once in a while the car will be real hesitatant with a major power loss and buck under any hard accelleration but then clear up.