info on fs-ze swap please

[ivanich]

FS-ZE from japan market dont have 170 hp on the wheels. This is dyno for my friend P5 with FS-ZE engine with CAI, Corksport ex cam.

Power H/p flywheel MAX = 172
Torque N.m. flywheel MAX = 193
RPM flywheel crankshaft MAX = 7000

H/p MAX = 151
Torque MAX = 187
RPM MAX = 7000

 

[RicoP5]

I have FS-ZE very low mile engine in my P5 turbo. If FS-ZE from mazda familia sport 20 you swap it with little problems. You need install on FS-ZE P5 exhaust mani. Intake mani dont have VTCS in FS-ZE, you need just leave solenoid connected to harness and check engine dont light. You need reinstall you knock sensor from P5 is the different.
If you have FS-ZE from Mazda Capella always with auto tranny you have more problems. Crank pulley, housing for temp sensor, termostat body, heater tube, throttle body, crank pulley, average pan are the different. You dont need FS-ZE ECU, it made mitsubishi in plastic black house, have obd 1 and different harness connector.

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One I'll b getting is from Japan I was told..

And well if I don't need the fs ze to get all if the motors power what ecu I need ? Can you elaborate on that ?

How do I know if it's a fs ze from sport 20 or the Capella?

 

[ivanich]

One I'll b getting is from Japan I was told..

And well if I don't need the fs ze to get all if the motors power what ecu I need ? Can you elaborate on that ?

How do I know if it's a fs ze from sport 20 or the Capella?

In Familia engine intake, exhaust manifold and fuel rail are different, all the rest are same.

You use stock P5 ECU, for example i use mazdaspeed ECU!
Capella FS-ZE have termostat body expanded to the other side, pulley with 4 lug, different TPS on the throttle body.

This is Cappela FS

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAZDA-PROTE...Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cc8ce7763&vxp=mtr

 

[RicoP5]

One I'll b getting is from Japan I was told..

And well if I don't need the fs ze to get all if the motors power what ecu I need ? Can you elaborate on that ?

How do I know if it's a fs ze from sport 20 or the Capella?

In Familia engine intake, exhaust manifold and fuel rail are different, all the rest are same.

You use stock P5 ECU, for example i use mazdaspeed ECU!
Capella FS-ZE have termostat body expanded to the other side, pulley with 4 lug, different TPS on the throttle body.

This is Cappela FS

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAZDA-PROTE...Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cc8ce7763&vxp=mtr

They have that one listed as a fs de.

Also yes I guess I can use stick p5 harness and ecu but would be pointless. Won't get all the power out of the motor without running the fs ze actual ecu

 

[ivanich]

They have that one listed as a fs de.

Also yes I guess I can use stick p5 harness and ecu but would be pointless. Won't get all the power out of the motor without running the fs ze actual ecu

If engine have big black plastic box in intake mani this is FS-ZE. I forget sport 20 FS-ZE have plastic cover and anower walve cover, like Mazdaspeed

This is FS-ZE with stock P5 intake and exhaust mani on 2002 Moscow p5

FS-ZE ecu program the same like Mp3 ECU 3-4 hp

 

[RicoP5]

interesting. everyone keeps saying without the fs-ze ecu its pointless to get the swap because it would be no different than the power the fs de makes now lol

 

[RicoP5]

No in Australia, just on on to astina gt and PM phildough he will give you all the info bud.

will do so. thanks

 

[tweety2300]

Why would you use a high compression motor for a turbo build?

I can't believe it only made 150 whp guess that's why I decided not to go with it

As for ecu use the mp3 ecu as it already advances the timing. If you really wana get crazy get a wide band,j&s safeguard , a piggy back, and adjustable cam gear. And go to town.

How much are you paying for this? I'm wondering if you would be better off doing a kl swap. Not to mention how much horrible info your getting I'm here. Since 150 whp is evil fast man

 

[ivanich]

interesting. everyone keeps saying without the fs-ze ecu its pointless to get the swap because it would be no different than the power the fs de makes now lol

Differens Intake cam 10.4 pistons, another working VICS. I have shown you in my post dyno with JDM FS-ZE engine and P5 ECU -172 HP on flywheel

 

[RicoP5]

Why would you use a high compression motor for a turbo build?

I can't believe it only made 150 whp guess that's why I decided not to go with it

As for ecu use the mp3 ecu as it already advances the timing. If you really wana get crazy get a wide band,j&s safeguard , a piggy back, and adjustable cam gear. And go to town.

How much are you paying for this? I'm wondering if you would be better off doing a kl swap. Not to mention how much horrible info your getting I'm here. Since 150 whp is evil fast man

no not for turbo. I want to keep it all n/a.

Differens Intake cam 10.4 pistons, another working VICS. I have shown you in my post dyno with JDM FS-ZE engine and P5 ECU -172 HP on flywheel

that means what. the fs.de to the flywheel makes like 130? lol

 

[tweety2300]

Kl swap is na it's just adding 2 cylinders

 

[RicoP5]

though about kl too. the p rice for the ze swap is great tho only reason im really looking into it

 

[ivanich]

Why would you use a high compression motor for a turbo build?

I can't believe it only made 150 whp guess that's why I decided not to go with it

As for ecu use the mp3 ecu as it already advances the timing. If you really wana get crazy get a wide band,j&s safeguard , a piggy back, and adjustable cam gear. And go to town.

How much are you paying for this? I'm wondering if you would be better off doing a kl swap. Not to mention how much horrible info your getting I'm here. Since 150 whp is evil fast man

I have FS-ZE engine in my car because my old engine is bad, now im forged!

This is not my dyno and not my car this is atmo P5 with FS-ZE engine. In Russia this engine cost 600$

 

[RicoP5]

well my car is over 200k already so i know eventually ill need an engine

 

[ivanich]

well my car is over 200k already so i know eventually ill need an engine

I have 280 k in my old engine and i setup FS-ZE from Capella in my car no problem

 

[RicoP5]

yeah I bet it was easy for you right? your already obd1 as it is?

 

[ivanich]

yeah I bet it was easy for you right? your already obd1 as it is?

Yes its easy for me i replase my engine himself and build too, i have OBD2 mazdaspeed ecu in my P5, this is my car
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?123819436-Ivanich-Russian-Build&p=6013349#post6013349

 

[RicoP5]

was your car originally obd1 tho or no?

 

[ivanich]

was your car originally obd1 tho or no?

I have USA Protege5 with OBD2 ECU

 

[RicoP5]

oh okay so pretty much like mines it should be then