POLARBEARsMP3
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- mazda protege mp3
when i go to the dealer what do i tell them ?
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RogerdodgerMSP
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- 03 Mazdaspeed Protege
just let them know that you noticed a hesitation issue with your car and that you would like a reflash. they might want to talk you out of it and say that it might not fix the issue but im most cases it will, like mine" if their cool enough they will take your car in and start working on it, it usually takes about an hour or so.
POLARBEARsMP3
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- mazda protege mp3
i have mp3 with msp ecu will they still fix it
boostisgood
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- 1988 FC3S TII
Wow! All my hard work is STILL paying off. 
Glad to see new members/owners benefiting from this. Thank you to all the other folks that helped out in diagnosing, complaining and dealing with Mazda N/A many years ago to get them to recognize and fix this issue.
Glad to see new members/owners benefiting from this. Thank you to all the other folks that helped out in diagnosing, complaining and dealing with Mazda N/A many years ago to get them to recognize and fix this issue.I have the hesitation issue.my car only has 37k miles and I am not the original owner.would the reflash be free for me due to the mileage?I just recently purchased my mazdaspeed and bought it knowing that the car could possibly be asking for a tune.would a joeP fpr help? What are my options to eliminate the hesitation for good? I have so many questions lol.if anyone is running a greddy dual stage boost controller then please pm me.
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- 03.5 YLW MSP
nope ti would not due to the age of the car I dont think. Your optiosn are factory reflash, piggy back, or stand alone.. no way to tuen via OBD port.
hornsfan10609
Certified Mazda Tech
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- 2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege x2
Ssftc
I know this is an old thread, but I had to chime in.....Just did the ECU Reflash; and OMG the difference is AMAZING. If you haven't had it done, and you are frustrated with you lack or power/hesitation/surging (while in boost), and you've checked everything else (vacuum leaks, WGA, plugs, wires etc) then it might just be what you need.....
Some background: Bought my MSP about a month ago. It came with a TurboHoses SMIC and hardpipes, and a Forge BPV, as well as Greddy Cat-Back exhaust; it has the stock Cats (which was essential for me). I added an AEM CAI (so I could pass CA smog). It also has a boost gauge, which was critical in knowing what the turbo was doing.
It literally did not make any more power in boost than in vaccum, I even posted on this forum “Help 7-8 psi boost and no power” … When I bought it, it ran pretty crappy, it would even occasionally stall if you stab the clutch and take your foot off the gas. Turns out it had a bad WGA, replacing that fixed the stalling. I check all the vacuum lines, and actuators to make sure there were no vacuum leaks. The vacuum was 22 in and steady (another good reason a boost gauge is helpful). But when I would transition into boost it would literally not gain ANY power and would start bogging down and even buck. The boost would hold rock steady at 8 psi and it literally would make more power if I back it off and dropped out of boost… which is just crazy. Another interesting note: when it was cold it pulls great, and is a blast to drive, after a few minutes, when it reaches temperature it again starts to bog down when you push it into boost. That made me suspect that it wasn’t plugs ignition etc. (Note: I put a scan tool on it and notice that when hot it would pull advance way back even into the -6 to -10 degree range when it was hot, and only to a few degrees when cold.. so I figured that could be an issue).
So my plan of action was to get the ECU flashed to see if that made a difference and then figured I’d likely end up getting a SSAFC since all the feedback I got was that the ECU reflash probably wouldn’t solve the problem. Well I can gladly report Problem Solved! There is now a nice smooth delivery of power as I transition from vacuum to boost with (virtually) no flat spots; and it pulls strong. Before the reflash I was literally embarrassed to give my friend a test drive it was running so crappy …. no longer it is a totally different car. I’m not saying that I will not eventually get a SSAFC, as I am a tweaker after all, and it is probably still running rich… but the difference is AMAZING. I went from having to back off the throttle to keep it out of boost … to yeah-ha! now this is more like it!!
I’m not saying that if your MSP runs like crap that an ECU reflash will fix it (there are plenty of other things that could be causing problems). But, if you’ve checked everything out and you are at your wits end and it still runs like crap …. Then I highly recommend getting the ECU reflashed if you haven’t already done so. Oh yeah and they did charge me $100 for the reflash. But it was probably the best $100 I’ve ever spent as far as performance/drivability.
Just thought I would pass on my experience in case it helps out anyone in the same situation….
Some background: Bought my MSP about a month ago. It came with a TurboHoses SMIC and hardpipes, and a Forge BPV, as well as Greddy Cat-Back exhaust; it has the stock Cats (which was essential for me). I added an AEM CAI (so I could pass CA smog). It also has a boost gauge, which was critical in knowing what the turbo was doing.
It literally did not make any more power in boost than in vaccum, I even posted on this forum “Help 7-8 psi boost and no power” … When I bought it, it ran pretty crappy, it would even occasionally stall if you stab the clutch and take your foot off the gas. Turns out it had a bad WGA, replacing that fixed the stalling. I check all the vacuum lines, and actuators to make sure there were no vacuum leaks. The vacuum was 22 in and steady (another good reason a boost gauge is helpful). But when I would transition into boost it would literally not gain ANY power and would start bogging down and even buck. The boost would hold rock steady at 8 psi and it literally would make more power if I back it off and dropped out of boost… which is just crazy. Another interesting note: when it was cold it pulls great, and is a blast to drive, after a few minutes, when it reaches temperature it again starts to bog down when you push it into boost. That made me suspect that it wasn’t plugs ignition etc. (Note: I put a scan tool on it and notice that when hot it would pull advance way back even into the -6 to -10 degree range when it was hot, and only to a few degrees when cold.. so I figured that could be an issue).
So my plan of action was to get the ECU flashed to see if that made a difference and then figured I’d likely end up getting a SSAFC since all the feedback I got was that the ECU reflash probably wouldn’t solve the problem. Well I can gladly report Problem Solved! There is now a nice smooth delivery of power as I transition from vacuum to boost with (virtually) no flat spots; and it pulls strong. Before the reflash I was literally embarrassed to give my friend a test drive it was running so crappy …. no longer it is a totally different car. I’m not saying that I will not eventually get a SSAFC, as I am a tweaker after all, and it is probably still running rich… but the difference is AMAZING. I went from having to back off the throttle to keep it out of boost … to yeah-ha! now this is more like it!!
I’m not saying that if your MSP runs like crap that an ECU reflash will fix it (there are plenty of other things that could be causing problems). But, if you’ve checked everything out and you are at your wits end and it still runs like crap …. Then I highly recommend getting the ECU reflashed if you haven’t already done so. Oh yeah and they did charge me $100 for the reflash. But it was probably the best $100 I’ve ever spent as far as performance/drivability.
Just thought I would pass on my experience in case it helps out anyone in the same situation….
POLARBEARsMP3
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- mazda protege mp3
great info
hornsfan10609
Certified Mazda Tech
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- 2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege x2
If it has a Mazda sticker on the driver's door or under the hood it has the reflash.
float_6969
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- 2003.5 MSP Blue #2450, 1995 Nissan 240sx, 1996 Mazda Miata
I tried to get the ECU flashed at my dealer recently and they said they couldn't even connect to the ECU. Any idea's? I don't think it's been flashed, as I've looked all over and don't see any stickers.
i went to the dealer today in Garden City Mazda,Hempstead, NY. call ahead they told me will do it for $105 . went there told me $105 is to check is there any update needed, if so total is $210. crazy . i just took off. any one know any where in tri-state area could do it for less ??
hornsfan10609
Certified Mazda Tech
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- 2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege x2
Don't bother honestly, the flash doesn't really help. The right mods will do a world of difference.
called a Mazda dealership on a perspective msp i might buy. i got a carfax and although many warranty records show, it doesn't show the reflash. i gave them the VIN number and they looked up the vehicle. they told me their was no open recalls left on the car.......
so it has had the recall performed?
so it has had the recall performed?
