induction cleaning

[blkspeed]

has any one done this yet i figured it should be very helpful since these cars have bad carbon build up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seSlV0rnGEM

im getting this done with new denso plugs i expect big results

 

[mortimersnerd]

I'm guessing this does little more than clean the MAF. $5 can of electronics cleaner at Autozone will do the trick just fine and can make a difference. If this made a huge difference we'd all be doing it.

 

[blkspeed]

I'm guessing this does little more than clean the MAF. $5 can of electronics cleaner at Autozone will do the trick just fine and can make a difference. If this made a huge difference we'd all be doing it.

thats why i posted this to hear everyones comments

i have a family friend mechanic who highly recomends it due to being running too rich at idle also adding to it is very low rpm at idle and poor mpg not sure about power since ive only had the car for 4 months now

 

[cymx5]

I use Seafoam in all my vehicles. Not yet in the MS3, but probably will with the 60k mile maintenance. I like this video the best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6WMV4J-sBk

 

[Darth Vader]

Problem is, mate, our cars are direct injected and are using fuel pressures up to 2000 psi. You can't just use any old rubber hose setup for 40 psi port injected cars on ours.

 

[cymx5]

I'm not as familiar with direct injection. Am I missing something here? You can still put Seafoam into your gas tank and a vacuum line.

 

[matsuda]

i have a family friend mechanic who highly recomends it due to being running too rich at idle also adding to it is very low rpm at idle and poor mpg not sure about power since ive only had the car for 4 months now

The fuel mixture is closed loop at idle and it is controlled/monitored by the ECU.
If it is too rich, the MIL would be on.

 

[chief_wiggum]

I use Seafoam in all my vehicles. Not yet in the MS3, but probably will with the 60k mile maintenance. I like this video the best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6WMV4J-sBk

I did this a few weeks ago....smoke, smoke, SMOKE!!!

 

[blkspeed]

Problem is, mate, our cars are direct injected and are using fuel pressures up to 2000 psi. You can't just use any old rubber hose setup for 40 psi port injected cars on ours.

so this would not work or it would hurt the car?

and i thought sea foam would eat the turbo seals?

 

[Darth Vader]

First of all, please read before replying. I'm not talking about pouring Seafoam in the tank or, hooking it up to a vac line. I'm replying to the OP's idea of doing an in-line fuel injector clean. That won't work on a DI car because the automotive systems that do this are set up to run 40 psi port fuel injectors not 2000 psi direct injectors. If you did hook this up somehow, you'd blow it wide open and spray vapourised gas all over the shop. (boom06)

...and, on the Seafoam front, our cars are 2 or 3 years old, unless you left them idling all that time using Mexican gas, there's likely pretty much 0 deposits in the engine. The smoke the Seafoam users are seeing is Seafoam itself cooking off.

 

[blkspeed]

First of all, please read before replying. I'm not talking about pouring Seafoam in the tank or, hooking it up to a vac line. I'm replying to the OP's idea of doing an in-line fuel injector clean. That won't work on a DI car because the automotive systems that do this are set up to run 40 psi port fuel injectors not 2000 psi direct injectors. If you did hook this up somehow, you'd blow it wide open and spray vapourised gas all over the shop. (boom06)

...and, on the Seafoam front, our cars are 2 or 3 years old, unless you left them idling all that time using Mexican gas, there's likely pretty much 0 deposits in the engine. The smoke the Seafoam users are seeing is Seafoam itself cooking off.

sorry i didnt know who you were replying to. and who is op? i didnt see a member name in the topic

sorry im confused but ill ask again so i can get it straight

so the bg system in the youtube video wouldnt work on our cars?

if so im shocked if thats ture because my mechanic is wanting to do this to my car

 

[blkspeed]

The fuel mixture is closed loop at idle and it is controlled/monitored by the ECU.
If it is too rich, the MIL would be on.

well the cel code said running too rich at idle

 

[Darth Vader]

sorry i didnt know who you were replying to. and who is op? i didnt see a member name in the topic

sorry im confused but ill ask again so i can get it straight

so the bg system in the youtube video wouldnt work on our cars?

if so im shocked if thats ture because my mechanic is wanting to do this to my car

OP=Original Poster

There are two kinds of systems, ones that line in to the fuel system and ones that work like a can of Seafoam hooked into a vac line where cleaner is drawn into the engine by engine vacuum or moderate pressurisation in the can.

From the looks of the ad, this system is the former, which is the most effective way to do it. However, also from the ad, it looks like a port injection setup which won't work on a DI car. I could be wrong but, that is what it looks like.

Has your mechanic any experience with DI? It's pretty new to the car world. It's been on diesel big rigs for decades and in aviation applications since the 1930s.

 

[blkspeed]

im not sure ill ask him tom. and see if he knows or not

thanks for the help

 

[blkspeed]

well i talked to my mechanic and this induction cleaning wont harm our engines im getting it done tom. with my denso spark plugs so ill post reviews tom. nite

 

[Saskatchewan17]

Put the plugs in after... I would just seafoam it. 1/3 in the gas tank, 1/3 in the brake booster, and 1/3 in the crankcase. Change oil 50 miles later... ta-da.

Also... how many miles does the car have? I don't think you need this service at all... just throwing money out the window.

 

[blkspeed]

its a 45,000 was at 400 rpms at idle and the induction cleaning with denso plugs are done its now at 800 rmps at idle. i cant wait to drive it tonight

 

[cymx5]

Very cool. That is great news to hear and I'm happy it worked so well.

 

[mr_mazda329]

...and, on the Seafoam front, our cars are 2 or 3 years old, unless you left them idling all that time using Mexican gas, there's likely pretty much 0 deposits in the engine. The smoke the Seafoam users are seeing is Seafoam itself cooking off.

This is where you would be so wrong my friend. Our cars need it more because we are DI.

Audi R8 DI (Mileage unknown):

MS3 @ 50k:

MS6 @ 30k:

Linked to the cause of all this.. EGR and poor PCV system. We arent the only ones struggling with DI on this. Seafoam..do it. Running meth helps to prevent this, but not a fix.

 

[Darth Vader]

That 100,000 miles on the GLI??!! Of course there's some deposits built up. Especially since it's a notorious VW problem that they hate low speed running and load up super bad when you do. And the deposit level on that 50,000 mile 3 doesn't look that bad, nowhere near enough to freak out about.

Given the general level of maintenance American-driven automobiles receive (namely, nearly none until they break) it's no surprise to find deposits, most people don't change their oil nearly often enough and that's a major cause of deposits.

There are far to many potential causes of deposits to blanket say we all need to Seafoam our 2 year old cars. It's all about maintenance and treatment. If you've been using your 3 as a taxi or police vehicle or as a delivery vehicle for UPS and, failing to maintain it, maybe you should get at this but, given good, normal treatment/maintenance, it's probably premature for most of us.

I am old enough to recall when decarbonising an engine was a normal service. This meant a complete teardown and hot-tank at specified intervals, if you can believe that.

This is what Seafoam and other products were designed for, not for modern, EFI and computer equipped cars. This doesn't mean deposits don't form and affect performance but, it's ALOT further down the road than it was in those days.