I'm seriously thinking about getting this.

Highlander Hybrid.

And how much wood and stuff fits in an SUV. If that is your reason, buy a truck.
 
Agreeance on the truck...4 door Tacoma is sweet, can haul a family (and wood), and is decent on gas. I mainly bought my truck for hauling mulch, tiles, etc. for work on the house. Ironically, a month later I am seperated and my house is for sale.

Anyway, a truck is way more useful for house/yard related items. Check out the Ridgeline too (although it is a bit fugly).
 
my friends dad just bought a tacoma. nice truck. im not into trucks but i kinda like it. drop it like the X-runner and it will be hot.
 
what about the new jeep commander? you can even get it with the 5.7l Hemi. And it has though skylights and is in the same price range also.
 
******* STUPID ASS TANK V8 SUVS

there is no reason to get a vehicle like that,but there are lots of reasons why not to.
 
my mom just got the younger sibling to that truck, the 05 GMC Envoy Denali, rides really nice for a suv. Still gets s*** gas mileage (12-15mpg) but she only drive its a lobck and a half to work so thats no big deal. but its only 345 horses instead of the even 400. its the 5.3L vortec (same motor thats in my silverado.)
 
brealmp3 said:
what about the new jeep commander? you can even get it with the 5.7l Hemi. And it has though skylights and is in the same price range also.


man... that thing is butt ugly!!!
 
miss_steele_msp said:
i say get it in black. i own a house and the suv comes in handy when im at lowes or home depo. it def comes in handy when we drive from georgia to new jersey with the kids. So everyone knocking the suv if you dont have a reason to get one good for you dont get one,but dont knock the people who do need or want one.


So with that logic, a minivan is the perfect choice. good gas mileage... plenty of space for the kids on road trips. and of course, for weekend warriors, plenty of space for 2x4s and the like. (a lot more than an SUV! again, these things don't really have as much room as people think! if you don't need to go offroading, unibody's the way to go. I can put 4 mountain bikes in my element, without taking off the tires. can't do that in an suv!

Need is a strong word. The element comes in handy for reasons you've mentioned. Though I'm not buying stuff at lowes every second of my life, when I do go to those types of places, it's nice to know I'll be able to bring back whatever I need in my own ride. as far as trips with the kids are concerned... not sure I agree with you there. not only is the gas mileage going to hit you where it hurts but again, these things arent' as spacious as they look from the outside. Unless we're talking about a monster suv with 3rd row seating, aside from the cargo bay, legroom is on par with any midsize car. so where's the value on a long roadtrip with the kids? have you seen the trunks in some of these cars nowadays? not a fan per se but that new ford 500's trunk is about the size of one of your big off-roader tires. in short, if you're comfortable with the size of your genitalia and won't be off-roading anytime soon, these days, there are better options than gas-guzzling, unpractical suvs.
 
redwagon02 said:
for furniture delivery? hehe. Do you know how to use power tools? or tools in general? lol

not just for furniture delivery. When I layed the bamboo flooring, I had to rent a truck. When I layed the slate, I had to rent a truck. When I bought a TV, I had to rent a truck. There's plenty of projects I still need to do.

Also, a boat would probably be down the line. Should I pull it with the protege5 or miata? lol again

you mentioned you needed an suv, partially, for things like 'furniture delivery'. since furniture isn't a commodity (we're not buying it every week like we buy food) one could live with having it delivered the handful of times in their life they actually buy it. not sure why anyone would need to buy a specific type of car soley for this purpose.

why'd you ask him if he knows how to use power tools? what's that have to do with delivering furniture? (or anything for that matter)

if a boat is DEFINITELY down the line, then your case for an suv just got stronger. since it's merely 'probably', yet another reason to hold off... until you know for sure.

lastly...he mentioned the volvo wagon. my friend has one and, though I don't like the styling (the audi verion's much nicer) it's got about as much space as my parents grand cheorokee inside.




If you're deadset on getting an SUV, do yourself (and the world) a favor and get a hybrid hylander or freescale. while they're not as big as the ones you're interested in (the hylander has 3rd row seating so it should be big enough for your family) the fact that they get decent gas mileage alone is worth the consideration.

while, individually, suv owners aren't to blame for things like rising fuel costs, global warming/flooding... COLLECTIVELY, they form part of the puzzle. Until MFRs learn how to make them fuel efficient (at least 25 mpg< city) even if prices go down, unless the situation absolutely calls for it, they shouldn't really be considerations. Since the govt won't pass legislation to force the GMs of the world to make more fuel efficient suvs, we the people have to. to keep buying them would only encourage them to keep things status quo. as it stands, the oil companies are enjoying record profits. why? because, despite all our bitching about how high gas prices are (and soon to be home heating), collectively none of us are doing anything about it. we're all still driving as much... and, though suv sales are down, they're still selling. there's still plenty of people out there convincing themselves that they need one.

Unfortuneatly, I dont' predict any dramatic changes. prices at the pump are going to stabalize and, because its easier, the GMs of the world will continue to pump out the ozone killing machines they're so good at. as much as everyone will disagree, not only would it send a message to the oil companies but also do a lot of good for the planet (in the long run).. GAS PRICES SHOULD BE HIGHER. how high? I'm talkin $4/gallon high! (and no, i'm not high) if the govt had any balls, they'd put a hefty tax on the gas and through that money into devloping alt energy. people would either A) (in gas guzzler situations) drive only when necessary or B) -most preferably- be further forced out of the suv mentality. (be honest, if you drove a car that got at least 30mpg, $4/gallon would be doable, though still suck... but not nearly as bad as it would in a 15mpg ride.) in the end, we'd accelerate or ability to be less dependent on those saudi scumbags, ween people off vehicles they don't really need, force manufacturers to accelerate development of more efficient vehicles and... oh yeah, help save the environment.

now who's with me? haha ...end rant
 
nah... i wrote that s*** at like 5am this morning. (unvoluntarily woke up to let the dog out) now where's my damn soapbox?
 
make sure you put twankie spinners and as many 15's as you can fit in that thing! don't forget that everything has got to be chromed out too! (it's the only way to ride)
 
wow you guys are harsh on people. for a bunch of people running catless msp's you guys sure are worried about the enviroment.
 

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